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NO MORE WOBBLE

I quit going to jungle shows because this genre makes my want to kill someone...
anyone feel me on this?
I didn't like it back in the 1990's when it was jump up ans it certainly sucks harder now!
I'd rather hear some diva-vocal, disco house than another wobble record!

By the way it is the only genre within the dnb/jungle spectrum that I don't like...


By the way did I mention how much I hate jump up???


I'm done with my rant. thanks for listening.

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oh god. not again.

no one cares. play what you want.

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I care. I do play what I like.
Wobble jungle SUCKS MY BALLS!

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yes again and ad nausium

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and again JUMP UP SUX!

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I'm not sure I properly expressed how I felt so just to make sure...
I really think that DNB is a very complex and interesting style of dance music. However I believe that the sub-genre known as jump-up or clown-step has simplified the dnb/jungle sound and stripped it of anything that made it any more interesting that house. It seems like it is meant to appeal to those that have little knowledge of the complexities of dnb or people that are very high on exstacy. either way. I find it very boring and repetitive without the subtleties or nuance that make the jungle genre so amazing.

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Oh man, dont hate on wobble! I dont LOVE it but i do believe there should be some kind of balance. I do enjoy the occasional jump up tune at the club, wether or not many people like to admit it THE WOBBLE JUMP UP GET THE CROWD HYPED and this is true. People like Hazard, Clipz, TC, G Dub, Original Sin, Distorted Minds to name a few have some sick dancefloor tunes, SHIT, i play some of them myself when i get the chance. However, when a set is NOTHING BUT WOBBLE it does become stale, the formula gets old and tired and i will surely walk away, i feel ya on that. Wobble is dope but too much of it is kinda blah

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thanks for the input chasm..
I thonk my problem is that it is very formulaic and I don't like the particular outcome.

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yeah, i think the problem for some is that most wobble is too simplistic, similar drums, wobbly basslines and the slight variations of the same leads, which a lot of people dont find innovative or pleasent. Just like ive heard some s**tty wobble, ive heard s**tty liquid and s**tty tear-out tunes. Theres garbage and quality in every sub-genre of dnb, its just a matter of what your listening to i guess....

maybe its time for some "ground-breaking wobble"



[ djchasm - 23 Jan 2008 18:37 ]

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bwahahaha!!
but the crowd enjoys the wobbles because its a diff crowd now... definitely ringling bros. steez stuff though.soon dj's will be mixing on top of trained elephants...

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ground breaking wobble??
sounds like an oxymoron.

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hahahahaha! maybe so, but nowadays there so many new producers doing new and exciting things, theres someone out there that will add or extract from the sound to make it new and fresh. Just look at lynx, who would have though something as minimal and off as DISCO DODO would be so widely embraced, it happens just not often

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fair enough well as a lover of music, I love new and exciting sounds so I would love to hear a wobble tune that wasn't cut from a mold.

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or a block of cheese

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Another perfect example of someone taking this music waaaay too seriously.

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yea I've been a lover of dnb since about 1992 ...
it has been a major part of my life, not having fun because of boring tunes is serious.

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According to piston22 ...

I quit going to jungle shows because this genre makes my want to kill someone...
anyone feel me on this?
I didn't like it back in the 1990's when it was jump up ans it certainly sucks harder now!
I'd rather hear some diva-vocal, disco house than another wobble record!

By the way it is the only genre within the dnb/jungle spectrum that I don't like...


By the way did I mention how much I hate jump up???


I'm done with my rant. thanks for listening.
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thank you!

"By the way it is the only genre within the dnb/jungle spectrum that I don't like..."

same here

WOBBLE

its s**t and its pussying the scene I see it :D

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yah wobble is pretty uninspiring I must add. It kinda takes away the complexity and safistication that oringally attracted me to dnb music in 1998. I can still appreciate simple dnb like calibre - fire and water (which is by far more jump up than liquid) for the fact it doesnt sound like a ringtone from a 1997 nokia cell phone lol. I do think proper jump up is f**king sick tho like old dope dragon and full cycle. There is still good jump up being made, lots of stuff gets classified as tech or liquid purely for the fact that it doesn't sound like nokia wobble garbage, but its still blatently jump up dnb lol.

anyways its all just labels, plenty of s**t tech and liquid out and about. Does bother me tho that u do hear more s**t jump up than just atleast average liquid for that.

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A lot of the wobble I hear is attractive to some of the newer kids emerging in the LA junglescene for some reason. Im with ya Piston, I like outright JUNGLE, and I'drather hear some diva-vocals than set after set of Jump Up. But whatever... I love it all. Bring on the ground-breaking wobble!!!!!

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Thats great. Play what you want. I'm happy for you. Maybe you could extend the same courtesy to other DJ's who like that sound without huffing and puffing about how much you don't like it.

I play wobbly tunes, I play jump up tunes, amongst other styles. I enjoy listening to other DJ's play those sounds too.

And if you can't stand the sound to the point that you dont want to go out anymore then so be it. More room on the dancefloor for me.

I'm sure everyone else won't mind either, cause like I said, no one cares.

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According to piston22 ...

I care. I do play what I like.
Wobble jungle SUCKS MY BALLS!
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no1 cares what u have to say about wobbles if u dont like it ur probably getting too old then

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I never post any more but i do have to say something on this one. I do have to say I'm not a big fan of of it. I love my Hard & Dark s**t. I love my ragga s**t. But I do like to hear some Jump up thrown in. Like someone else said not a full night of it but Some of that s**t is sic as f**k. Drum and Bass is constantly evolving... New VSTs, New Sounds, New Technics. you can do 1 of 2 things. evolve with it... or be that bitter old junglist that hates where its going and gets left behind.

So Go to Adrenaline on Feb. 5th
(plug)

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hahaha! *claps hands*

well done, my man. well done.

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According to boxmon ...

I never post any more but i do have to say something on this one. I do have to say I'm not a big fan of of it. I love my Hard & Dark s**t. I love my ragga s**t. But I do like to hear some Jump up thrown in. Like someone else said not a full night of it but Some of that s**t is sic as f**k. Drum and Bass is constantly evolving... New VSTs, New Sounds, New Technics. you can do 1 of 2 things. evolve with it... or be that bitter old junglist that hates where its going and gets left behind.

So Go to Adrenaline on Feb. 5th
(plug)
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i love some good, quality jump up but i hate the ringtone garbage.

if that makes me a "hater" so be it.

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I dont mind the wobble to be honest, some of it is quite tastey these days if we are all being straight here....my problem is with the mixing of it. Is it a requirement to pick tunes that are off key from each other to double drop? I have seen sets full of out of key double drops and djs dancing around like they are standing on hot coals. Please people, learn how to mix, this double drop thing is just out of control. Its like, "look at me, I can prove I can beatmatch at the cost of everyones night out as I ruin it with key clashes"....??!!!??

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I have always said the best thing about drum and bass is that there is something for everyone.

i have friends that only listen to rock and metal but dig on the darker dnb... sweet!

i also have friends who have never heard dnb so i'll give them a dancefloor mix (andy c., hype, marky) and they fall in love with the sound.

then there are the new kids (who by the way are the ones who packed out function and respect on a weekly basis) and they are the ones who are all about the gnarly wobble sound.... and since they are the ones showing up, more than likely the dj's are gonna try to accomidate the crowd.

i personally love the jump up (wobble) sound but yes like some others have stated.... it can get old after listening to it for six hours strong.

there are so many styles in the sound, don't cage yourself in to just one!

But if you dont like it.... just don't listen. and that goes for anything!

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What's a good example of a "wobble" track?

I havn't been to a "DnB" night in ages...

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i don't like artichokes




yeah i know stupid statement because you probably don't care

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how would you feel if most restaurants started serving mostly artichoke???
you would stop going out to eat right???

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artichoke is one tune...if they played one tune all night i would stop going out

i just don't think its very open minded to write off a whole subgenre

i don't like most gdub stuff or some of the really faceless tunes that are released on labels like finn people but i do like alot of clipz stuff and some tc or zen for example

i mean i like what i like what

s**t i like a christina aguilera song i may not like backstreet boy songs but i don't run around saying please no more pop music



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According to piston22 ...

how would you feel if most restaurants started serving mostly artichoke???
you would stop going out to eat right???
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Yes, I would stop going out to eat at restaurants. Then I would log on to artichokescene.com and complain about how bitter I am about it. Then the artichoke eating community would essentialy inform me that they DONT CARE.

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According to piston22 ...

how would you feel if most restaurants started serving mostly artichoke???
you would stop going out to eat right???
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enough of the l33t vege-haters


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According to broken_records ...

i don't like artichokes




yeah i know stupid statement because you probably don't care
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LOL

even if there was no arguement on this subject right now, that comment killed me!!

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According to joshmayhem ...

Yes, I would stop going out to eat at restaurants. Then I would log on to artichokescene.com and complain about how bitter I am about it. Then the artichoke eating community would essentialy inform me that they DONT CARE.

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According to piston22 ...

how would you feel if most restaurants started serving mostly artichoke???
you would stop going out to eat right???
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I hate dub step. thats all.

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LOL at this thread !!

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I think wobble is just what is popular now. It was jump up, then jump-tech, then tech, then dancefloor.... i wonder what will be next to be played. who will be the one to change the sound up, like aphrodite (king of the beats) in the mid 90's.
I am not the biggest fan of wobble, some of it drives me crazy, it gets the crowd movin and the party goin. thats what it really is all about.

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I dunno man, I care.

The thing about "wobble" is that its disposable music. When you hear a set of all wobble its kinda like a set of all hard electro, s**t gets old really quick.

Who really is going to remember the music if you cant even tell the difference between tracks?

Show some f**king diversity in your dj sets, if you dont, then I will go from caring to not giving a f**k pretty quick.

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According to joshmayhem ...

Thats great. Play what you want. I'm happy for you. Maybe you could extend the same courtesy to other DJ's who like that sound without huffing and puffing about how much you don't like it.

I play wobbly tunes, I play jump up tunes, amongst other styles. I enjoy listening to other DJ's play those sounds too.

And if you can't stand the sound to the point that you dont want to go out anymore then so be it. More room on the dancefloor for me.

I'm sure everyone else won't mind either, cause like I said, no one cares.

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According to piston22 ...

I care. I do play what I like.
Wobble jungle SUCKS MY BALLS!
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According to joshmayhem ...

Yes, I would stop going out to eat at restaurants. Then I would log on to artichokescene.com and complain about how bitter I am about it. Then the artichoke eating community would essentialy inform me that they DONT CARE.

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According to piston22 ...

how would you feel if most restaurants started serving mostly artichoke???
you would stop going out to eat right???
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Josh is the winner for that amazing comment!

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well how did this thread get to 35 posts if you don't care???


admit it, you care.

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and rambo kitty's reply...




"wobble wobble muther fu@*er!!!"

[ syco - 24 Jan 2008 10:55 ]
[ syco - 24 Jan 2008 10:53 ]
[ syco - 24 Jan 2008 10:51 ]

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yea josh wins the prize he gets to go play some wobble!!
good job josh

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THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT DANNY!

AMEN!

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According to uniteddnb ...

I dunno man, I care.

The thing about "wobble" is that its disposable music. When you hear a set of all wobble its kinda like a set of all hard electro, s**t gets old really quick.

Who really is going to remember the music if you cant even tell the difference between tracks?

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Wobble is the "POP" of DnB
Hence why newbie 18 year olds are grindng on the respect speakers over it. Its fun and catchy, everyone enjoys a hook they can get down to in a drunken stuper.
But beyond that, the quality of music is s**t. and it compromises the integrity of the producer in my mind. When i cant tell the difference between ANY TC TUNE... i stop taking anything he does seriously.

Bottom line
Its for some people
its not for others

good in certain situations
terrible in others

we cant ban it from LA speakers
just ignore it like its electro
it'll run outta hype eventually

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Listen. I'm not saying that I like a whole set/evening of wobbly or jump up tunes either. I like and use diversity as well. The same aplies for any genre of DNB. If Tech Ich throws down a whole set of DNB that sounds like pots and pans bangin on trashcans it would get old too.

My point is that I'm not going to post a thread up and complain about it to piss off the people who do like it.

For example I could put up a post about how I dont care for dubstep. But before I did I would ask myself "Do people really care whether or not I like dubstep?" And the answer is NO. Or I might ask myself "I wonder if this post might make me sound like a bitter complainer and piss off dubstep fans." Then the answer would be YES.


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According to uniteddnb ...

I dunno man, I care.

The thing about "wobble" is that its disposable music. When you hear a set of all wobble its kinda like a set of all hard electro, s**t gets old really quick.

Who really is going to remember the music if you cant even tell the difference between tracks?

Show some f**king diversity in your dj sets, if you dont, then I will go from caring to not giving a f**k pretty quick.

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According to joshmayhem ...

Thats great. Play what you want. I'm happy for you. Maybe you could extend the same courtesy to other DJ's who like that sound without huffing and puffing about how much you don't like it.

I play wobbly tunes, I play jump up tunes, amongst other styles. I enjoy listening to other DJ's play those sounds too.

And if you can't stand the sound to the point that you dont want to go out anymore then so be it. More room on the dancefloor for me.

I'm sure everyone else won't mind either, cause like I said, no one cares.

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According to piston22 ...

I care. I do play what I like.
Wobble jungle SUCKS MY BALLS!
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According to joshmayhem ...

Yes, I would stop going out to eat at restaurants. Then I would log on to artichokescene.com and complain about how bitter I am about it. Then the artichoke eating community would essentialy inform me that they DONT CARE.

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According to piston22 ...

how would you feel if most restaurants started serving mostly artichoke???
you would stop going out to eat right???
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[ joshmayhem - 24 Jan 2008 11:10 ]

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And I will. And the crowd will dance, and everyone (except you) will have fun. Which, correct me if I'm wrong, is the point of all of this.

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According to piston22 ...

yea josh wins the prize he gets to go play some wobble!!
good job josh
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[ joshmayhem - 24 Jan 2008 11:13 ]

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To be fair... this isn't wobblescene.com

Just listened to the TC Exclusive mix for all of about 7 minutes... Can I have that back... please!

Long live jungle!

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how you can say clipz is more disposable than spl and spl is more disposable than calibre is beyond me


aren't tunes like james brown is dead, snap - power, blue suede shoes disposable pop?

they are still around

is BUST A MOVE by young mc not disposable and jump upy?

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Its all twisted Individual's fault.......

I think Josh has the right idea, a whole night of the stuff is to much and is like some Barnum & Baileys s**t. I think i buy about 6 wobble tunes a year to balance out my sets so i can appeal to that one kid waiting for that sick jump up tune. And it does work.......i love tech drum n bass, it has and will always be my fav genere, but i know that a full hour of that is not as bad as a full hour of wobble, but that might just be me. But i still know that as a listener, thew same type of sound can get old quick, so what do i do........well let me tell you.

Bring alot of tech, bring a wobble tune or two, a liquid banger, and a classic selection, badabing motha f**ka, a well rounded set.

And about the double drop......i only thro down freestyle sets, no programed bulls**t unless its a mix i will be handing out(which i rarely do). Its all about knowing the key mixes, and if it so happens to double drop, awwwwwww s**t!!!!!

lol

Im done here.

I guess the main point were all trying to say is "MODERATION IS THE KEY"

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ohh and in no way did i mean to bash anyone with programmed mixes, i was just "letting go"

lol