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joeyh0405

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 19 Feb 2008 20:05   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-Everyone on notice

He is known as dj Give – his real name is Nick. I’ve known him for a while and had gotten along with him, although I could see he had a violent side – I just didn’t know how bad – until last night.
Many of you, already knew the history of his brutality against her – it has occurred over many years of their relationship. She has had restraining orders on him, has called the cops on him before…he’s been arrested for this s**t before -
HE IS VIOLENT, OUT-OF-CONTROL – BEATS UP ON WOMEN. STRAIGHT UP – AND HE SHOULD NOT BE WELCOME TO OUR SCENE. Why should we tolerate this? What a typical, possessive male chauvinist.
I’M CALLING ON OUR JUNGLIST ‘FAMILY’ TO BAN HIM FROM OUR SCENE.

He also threatened me…including talking about “I know where you live bitch…” - and he does...

Can you imagine that? He calls me a bitch, but he’s a big macho man, because he can beat up women?…what a loser. Yeah, he could kick my ass. No question. I’m not ashamed to say I’m no match for him… But so what? What does that prove?....that he’s violent, out of control and needs to be put in check.

Everyone needs to know about this…Those of you who consider him a friend, need to think about this. Those of you who already know of his history – have to take some responsibility to intervene. I, have no choice now, he brought this s**t and put in my lap. I now also have to worry about running into this fool. But enough about me. The main concern here is for her – her safety.

This is what happened:

Last night, completely unprovoked, he started an argument with his ex- girlfriend. Her and I were sitting in her car. She was contemplating leaving because she already felt uneasy around him. Again, she has had to deal with his violence many times, she had no idea he was going to show up at the club last night. They actually had been somewhat on
speaking terms…but she was being very careful; not giving him her new number…why?

Because this guy blew out her old phone, calling all the time, filling up her mail box - leaving threatening messages – including talking about “if I see you with someone, I’m going to kill you”…..sweet guy huh? Real grown-up! Fucking high school hysterics. Emotionally immature (again, he can find me and kick my ass, that wont change what he is). And to make it perfectly clear: there is nothing between her and I – we are just friends – got it? (besides, jealously is not an excuse)

He has not been around for a while, just recently started showing up at things…

Unfortunately, she recently made the mistake of contacting him. BIG mistake. This, to him, meant that he could force himself on her and reclaim his ‘possession’. They have
been broken up for SIX MONTHS. He has no business getting into her life.

So, as he continues to verbally abuse her, demanding that she talk to him “RIGHT NOW”. She is trying to be chill and pleading with him to stop confronting her like this… She told him that she would talk to him just not right then and asking him to back off.
(These are issues that are not my business, so why is he talking about them in front of me? – because he thinks nothing of me – plus it’s a way of embarrassing her in front of some else)

He continues to insult her, me, and anyone else he’s seen her with. Apparently, everyone else is a ‘bitch’ to him. And more and more his voice and mannerisms start to get more and more abusive and threatening. I say something to him – and then he says to me – “don’t you f**king get into my business…bitch…”.
Let see, she and I, where sitting in her car, minding our own business…he comes up and starts banging on the window…hmmm

In retrospect, she should have started the car and left…but she didn’t. She finally tired of his f**king abuse and closed her window. This just got him more angry. He continues knocking and banging on the window, insulting her…

Check this infantile s**t he pulls: He then says to her “…roll down the window, or your going to make this happen…” (!) - as he starts to pull his sweat shirt over his hand- getting ready to smash her window… “I’ll give you 5 seconds to roll down the window..” – and starts counting…at that point I’m trying to call people in the club…

She is pleading for him to stop…and then BAM – He smashes her window in, all over us – She has a bunch of cuts on her arm - he pulls her hair – damages her car going for her keys – Steals the keys. Brilliant!, not only is this ‘assault’ its also “robbery’.

I confront him while I’m trying to call people in the club to come out (no service...s**t). He threatens me, steps up to me…I back off - cause just like he says – “im a f**king pussy”
(I’d much rather be a pussy, then a dick).

She is besides herself, this asshole grabs her arm and starts pulling her away. I run to get the security guard and – in hopes of avoiding having to call the police – I run back to the club to get some fellow jungliest together to deal with him… That didn’t go anywhere…
(to be fair, they had no idea what was going down, and I was in a panic) I run back to catch up with the security guards.

Apparently he left, she called the cops or the security guard helped her to - since she was very upset. One gaurd stayed until the police came. Eventually, we both had to give statements to them (god I hate the police – but Give- you didn’t give me any choice). Prison, isn’t going to help him…but if that where he wants to go? I’ll help him get there… I am her eye-witness, - I saw and heard the whole thing. And I am not going anywhere – no matter how much he threatens me- even if he brutalizes me – I will not be deterred, intimidated or stopped from doing everything I can to keep him away from her.

So ‘family’ – what it going to be?
He has been one of us. She is one of us. Many of you know both of them.; This is OUR collective responsibility:
Are we going to tolerate violence against women?
Are we going to tolerate thugs who threaten people with physical violence?
What kind of standard are we to have?
What conduct shall we condone or condemn?
It has to be made very clear, that this kind of s**t will not be tolerated.
It has NO PLACE in our scene. Women are not possessions of men.

Or, is it just easier to ignore it – for the sake of friendship? Or perhaps, sweep it under the rug in some kind of twisted “male bonding”? I sure hope not. I expect a lot more from friends and acquaintances’ that I’ve known now for a good 10 years. I would not be part of this scene unless I felt that the people in it had some integrity – a progressive character that does not accept this kind of ‘backward’ behavior. I expect people to step up and do the right thing.

If you know her - then now is the time to really be “we got your back” -

DO NOT ALLOW GIVE (nick) TO BE ANYWHERE NEAR HER.


[ joeyh0405 - 19 Feb 2008 23:34 ]

[ joeyh0405 - 19 Feb 2008 22:24 ]

jos

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 19 Feb 2008 22:11   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-Ev

i've know nick long enough to feel it was necessary to step to him one night at funktion when i saw that he was getting into it w/ someone on the dancefloor. i caught him outside and told him in plain english it probably wouldn't be in his best interest to be acting out like that all the time where everyone could see. he told me about his anger management and how he was dealing w/ it, gave me a hug and said thanx for caring and being real w/ him. i really felt he was being sincere. we went back inside and almost immediatly went right back after the same dude like he had no control over himself. eventually the fight got separated and i literally pulled him outside again, if u can picture that in your head due to my size...haha... but anyway, at this point i was yelling at him in dissapointment. he pulled out the race card and started talking about how he grew up in the ghetto and i'm a spoiled white boy who prolly got everything handed to him and all that so i gave up. i don't think alienating him is something we have to do cuz it's prolly why he hasn't been around in sometime b/c he realized what he did. but we should be pro-active in monitoring his prescence if he is around.

electrostatic

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 19 Feb 2008 22:22   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-Ev

violence is never the answer. what he did is wrong, imo. im sure it will catch up to him sooner or later. thats good advice coming from jo-s. awareness is the answer.

joeyh0405

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 19 Feb 2008 22:59   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-Ev

I am sorry Give, (if u read this) that i had to put u on blast.
I can not tolerate violence against women

But Give has a problem - a common one in fact. But just because he doesn't want to take responsibility for his actions come to grips with his anger - SHOULD not mean someone else (particularly his girl or ex-girl) has to deal with the direct consequence of his failure to control himself

what do people think is the right thing to do... Jail will not help him - except to keep him away from her
did he not just recently get out? Jail does not rehabilitate you...

This is my main concern. That she is safe from harm. That she is free to go where she wants to go without fear of being assaulted by him - like what happened last night. He is out of control...

This is the main point of my post.

For me to stay silent - would be wrong - this type of violence unchecked - would lead to dire consequences...
Look at the records - go look up the stats....violence again women has been a hallmark of this society -

But women fight back. and societies attitudes and ideas about what is right and what is wrong change and progress.

But now, at least, no one can say "i didn't know"...

[ joeyh0405 - 19 Feb 2008 23:21 ]

beatfreak

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 19 Feb 2008 23:32   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

I will say this about violence against women. I interned many a night with the Victims of Crime division & also the Family Crisis shelter near SC' and also Redondo Beach.

1. This is not the first violent act against the victim. What is done in front of you, is ten fold when no one is around

2. Unless her, or anyone (including you) are wlling to come forward and press charges.. he will not see any sort of justice. This is a most unfortunate part of the disease. Most battered women are too scared to press charges, or those who know the couple do not "want to get invovled" for out of fear of retaliation; or simply the victim takes them back.

3. She has many options that I can send her offline, however this will mean she will never be in the scene or community you are asking for help from. She will have to stop communication with you, and all associated in order to be truly safe. The victim's life needs to be turned around 180 degrees.


If I see any violence towards *anyone* I do report it, and get involved. Period.

IM me, and I will forward shelter and counseling information if she is ready. Or for anyone that needs it.

805dnbhead

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 20 Feb 2008 00:33   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

i don't know you, or anyone involved in this situation, but i'm going to comment on this, being that this is a public forum and all. and let it be known, i'm not taking sides with anyone, but of course i realize that what this guy is doing to this girl is wrong.

with that being said, it seems to me that you have very intense, yet mixed reactions to this. for instance, you admit that this guy would take you out if you fought, and that you're not ashamed of that. as you shouldn't be. but how do you think she would stand against him?

I'm sorry to have to put it to you like this, but how could you have run away and left her to deal with this crazy ass fool after he broke the window on her face? if it was your mom or your sister, would you be so quick to run up in the club and round up "us"? or would you jump in front of whatever or whoever is going to hurt a woman you care about? it seems like you're mostly mad that he made you feel like what he called you. your whole post is exposing all the negative about him and his character, yet you apologize for it. again, would you apologize if it were your mother or sister?

you obviously are asking for public opinion, so I'm gonna give you mine. you care about this girl (regardless of why). put your effort into talking to her and helping her get away from this guy. not some message board that she prolly doesn't want all this drama ending up on.

805dnbhead

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 20 Feb 2008 00:44   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

whew! beatreak hit it on the head! i know a little about this subject. i have an ex who i still and always will care about, who had some REALLY bad experiences with men. it affects the victim like you could never imagine. truly incomprehensible to anyone who hasn't been there.

djtabu

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 20 Feb 2008 08:41   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

People, this is a real situation and it it's happening where you go to hear the music you're passionate about and with people you share a connection with.

Every time someone actually gets hurt or (as we HAVE experienced in the scene) someone actually dies or gets killed there's hundreds of posts on how much of a tragedy it is and how much sympathy goes out to the people close to that person.

Well right now I think everyone has a real opportunity to make a difference before it’s too late. No one deserves to have their life constantly threatened. For what? Because you actually loved someone once and gave them a chance to change or better themselves at some point of their life. wtf?

So what if Joey ran for help. At least he tried to do something when he realized he needed help as well. Is that worse than running around parties like you're hard as all hell and when seeing some one needs real help and acting like nothing's going on? I don't think so.

And at least he has the balls to put this out even though it does put him in a more vulnerable position than he already is. And it seems he did ask permission to put this out there.

I've known Nick for a few years at least and had no idea until recently this was going on. Sadly this incident seems to be far from the worst of what he's done.

To him as someone I considered a friend all I can say is there's help out there. And if you think it's too hard to go get it at least take some time away and give yourself some time to heal. Many of us, including myself, know breaking up can be beyond s**t. But this isn't the way to end or try to continue any kind of relationship.

Again this is real and happening to a real person..

She is my friend and many of you call her yours.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I won't sit back and expect things like this to just stop because sadly many times it only gets worse.

This is jungle related.


[ djtabu - 20 Feb 2008 10:25 ]

[ djtabu - 20 Feb 2008 10:11 ]

blaze13

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 20 Feb 2008 09:04   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

SERIOUSLY IM SOOO FUCKIN HEATED ABOUT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is my f**kin girl! and no one ... I mean NO ONE should have to go through this and YES we all need to be aware of this pussy ass pig that feels the need to frighten and physically/emotionally hurt women to feel like a bigger man.. I don't f**kin care if this is a mental problem he has HE'S NOT TAKING CARE OF HIMSELF. This mother fukker will get his I have not seen this fool out ina LOOONG time and he needs to go the f**k back where he came from.

If I saw this go down yes I would jump in but sometimes people react differently when in crazy altercations.. Sometimes they don’t actually end up doing what they would want and just run for help... Joeyh was explaining how wigged out he was and I'm sure it’s a blur for him too.. so to criticize how he reacted in this is not needed.. Please don’t thread jack this and turn it into what he shoulda coulda woulda.. Cuz this thread needs to stay on topic.

I LOVE you girl .. with all my heart and I'm with you all the way.

*edit cuz of phrantek's insite i was just really heated cut this girl is really close*

[ blaze13 - 20 Feb 2008 09:51 ]

4_.phrantek._4

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 20 Feb 2008 09:14   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

We're living in a generation where a lot of the time, friends are more like family than blood relatives. Throughout the seven years I've been involved in this scene, I've been within varying proximity of several people who've been hurt, brutalized, or murdered. As these events cause a ripple effect through a victim's family and the scene by proxy of the roles of those involved, we are to some extent responsible for developing correct attitudes and viable response patterns for these kinds of occurrences.

This demands action, but I hope everyone understands that whatever action they take, violence only begets more violence. Nick's issues are apparently deeply rooted and cannot be properly attended to by attacking the symptoms.

Joey, thank you for notifying us and assessing the situation maturely. My heart goes out to you. Your closeness to this must make the whole situation very difficult, but I admire your bravado.

dtraxx

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  dj
 20 Feb 2008 09:59   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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We love you girl, you got family all around you and we'll be here for you whenever you need us.

That sucks we were just all hanging out the other night having a good old time, and now I have to read this.

I hope you realize that this needs to be the end of it, and you're better than that. Move on, and find the happiness that you deserve.

krisskross

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  music enthusiast
 20 Feb 2008 10:04   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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I have heard that Nick is like this towards women, so it's not surprising that he did this. He seems so sincere and "real" but its just a front. He has simptoms of being bi-polar with all these extreme emotions of being so so nice and then so so mad etc etc. Turning on people he calls friends, you don't treat people like that EVER! Be that friend, gf, ex-gf.. whatever.

You can guarantee that he will get the cold shoulder from me. If he's such a man, he needs to man-up and face the decisions he's made if he ever wants *real* respect.

I was in a relationship somewhat like that and its true, what people see is the nice version of what happens behind closed doors.

I hope he realizes how much more he lost, besides his chick, from doing what he did. Maybe he can FORCE a girl to do what he wants but he can't force everyone. He's lost alot of respect and trust and friends from this temper of his and in my mind, it's unforGIVEable since he seems to act so aware of it.

Nick, I hope you're proud of yourself...

*Krissy-Doe*

blaze13

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  dancer
 20 Feb 2008 10:06   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

You know its great to be in a scene where your friends give a s**t.
In other scenes you really coulden't be this open and have a grip of peeps havin your back.

kellyd

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 20 Feb 2008 10:22   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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I cant believe that someone this sweet has to deal with something like this.
Its very unfortunate that she has do deal with these issues when she probly just wants to have fun with friends.
I know we just met not to long ago, but anyway i can help....let me know.

ohh yeah

"Drop it like its hot"


[ kellyd - 20 Feb 2008 11:09 ]

4_.phrantek._4

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  producer
 20 Feb 2008 10:24   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

You know, if Nick is actually bipolar, it's actually an issue that needs to be dealt with properly. It's not about pride, it's not about him being "shady", it's about him being unwell. And he should be responsible for the steps he can take to be proactive about his condition...

But "bipolar" means chemical imbalance. Chemical imbalances can be triggered by psychological issues and toxicity. Schizophrenia, for example, can be triggered by LSD or donkey ass use in an individual in which the condition is otherwise completely latent.

Yes Nick is violent, yes what he has done is reprehensible and cannot be tolerated. But we need to approach him as a mentally ill person. You have identified mood swings that are indicative of both bipolar disorder AND multiple personality disorder, in which multiple personalities are "compartmentalized" in his brain and his consciousness shifts between them.

This has nothing to do with owning up to what he's done, or "hitting people to make himself feel like a big man". He is unwell and needs to be protected from himself as much as from other people.

I in no way mean to downplay the validity of the feelings of those directly involved. But I also feel that if you truly understand someone, there is never a reason to become angry at them. Victimization naturally leads to feelings of anger or despair or worse, but acting or thinking out of despair, fear, hatred, or any other negative emotion is irresponsible.

We should not be THINKING WITH OUR EMOTIONS about this. We should be USING OUR EMOTIONS TO THINK. There is a profound difference.

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According to krisskross ...

I have heard that Nick is like this towards women, so it's not surprising that he did this. He seems so sincere and "real" but its just a front. He has simptoms of being bi-polar with all these extreme emotions of being so so nice and then so so mad etc etc. Turning on people he calls friends, you don't treat people like that EVER! Be that friend, gf, ex-gf.. whatever.

You can guarantee that he will get the cold shoulder from me. If he's such a man, he needs to man-up and face the decisions he's made if he ever wants *real* respect.

I was in a relationship somewhat like that and its true, what people see is the nice version of what happens behind closed doors.

I hope he realizes how much more he lost, besides his chick, from doing what he did. Maybe he can FORCE a girl to do what he wants but he can't force everyone. He's lost alot of respect and trust and friends from this temper of his and in my mind, it's unforGIVEable since he seems to act so aware of it.

Nick, I hope you're proud of yourself...

*Krissy-Doe*
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chrisk

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  dj
 20 Feb 2008 10:35   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

i don't think any of us are qualified to diagnose him bipolar or anything else, other than the fact he definitely needs some serious help. without it things will definitely get worse for him.

we all definitely have your back girl, and should you need anything please reach out to us. we're all here for you.

4_.phrantek._4

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  producer
 20 Feb 2008 10:46   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Amen. And I think it would probably be wise to make sure his picture is posted at events and within the possession of security staff there.

If we have learned nothing else from the tragedies that have touched our scene, it should be that we NEED to be proactive.

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According to chrisk ...

i don't think any of us are qualified to diagnose him bipolar or anything else, other than the fact he definitely needs some serious help. without it things will definitely get worse for him.

we all definitely have your back girl, and should you need anything please reach out to us. we're all here for you.
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blaze13

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  dancer
 20 Feb 2008 10:48   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

^^

I get what your saying an all but this guy obviously had a track record for being a dick.. and you CAN go and get help... and not allow it to go on anymore... and hurt people in the process...... Trust me I know about that disease.. not from myself but close family of mine.. and no were not qualified enough to diagnose him but if he chooses to not have gotten help in his past I refuse to treat it any less then "a man hurting a women to feel better"

I understrand that your not making excuses but i just view it a lil different

4_.phrantek._4

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  producer
 20 Feb 2008 10:51   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

Fair enough. I view everything vastly different from most, so far be it from me to invalidate your viewpoint.

unifire

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 20 Feb 2008 10:52   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

cut the psychobabble please phrantek. if someone has psychological problems they should deal with them or take responsibility for them.

emotions are human and people will react accordingly. there's no excuse for physically assaulting people, days of cavemen are long behind us.

[ unifire - 20 Feb 2008 11:15 ]

[ unifire - 20 Feb 2008 11:14 ]

djpawn

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 20 Feb 2008 10:53   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

you KNOW we love you girl and if you ever need to talk or ANYTHING. play crappy drinking games at the pad.. you know we got you.

DO NOT let this scare you from being social and spending time with your friends and listen to the music you love.

4_.phrantek._4

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  producer
 20 Feb 2008 10:55   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

I never said there was an excuse for physically harming anyone. Neither is there any excuse for a negative response to this that involves the same concept of physical harm (albeit for different and retaliatory reasons).

I'll "psychobabble" as much as I want, Pete. And I'll respect your right to express your opinion without attacking you or labeling it negatively.

For the record I do think it sounds like he ought to be restrained, but not violently and not in jail.

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According to unifire ...

cut the psychobabble please phrantek. if someone has psychological problems they should deal with them or take responsibility for them.

emotions are human and people will react accordingly. there's no excuse for physical assaulting people.

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[ 4_.phrantek._4 - 20 Feb 2008 11:19 ]

stoned_bluntgod

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 20 Feb 2008 10:59   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

Is Bass Nach gonna have to slap a bitch?

haha, looks like junglefratscene back in full force.

noir

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  dj
 20 Feb 2008 11:03   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

Just notified of this thread---Haven't been on JS in 3 years but the Ex-girl in question is my cousin and I can attest to the claims re: Nick. I will never forget him biting her in the face at Bassrush right in front of me her lip spilling out with blood all over the place and being thrown out by security---that is one of MANY instances of his violence and disrespect in public. Words can't even describe the detest I hold for this person. He's got a serious problem and needs SERIOUS help!
2 cents

unifire

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 20 Feb 2008 11:06   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

what are you gonna do clockwork orange somebody? doubt that is going to help. if someone busted my window and cut me open i'd want some kind of reparations beyond having them sit down with a shrink.

circuit

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  dj
 20 Feb 2008 11:15   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

so just like most other things this has now turned into an arguement thread. i can understand most threads being a debate but this is a much more serious matter.

you did the right thing by saying something joey

[ circuit - 20 Feb 2008 12:42 ]

4_.phrantek._4

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 20 Feb 2008 11:16   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

Circuit, you are correct, and I apologize. Pete, we should stop discussing our differences on this thread because it's irrelevant.

It's a lot more important what the victim needs or wants than what you think constitutes adequate reparations. We should just be supportive of her and of the peaceful actions available to ensure that she remains safe and sustains as little emotional damage from this (in the case of her close friends).

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According to unifire ...

what are you gonna do clockwork orange somebody? doubt that is going to help. if someone busted my window and cut me open i'd want some kind of reparations beyond having them sit down with a shrink.
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[ 4_.phrantek._4 - 20 Feb 2008 11:38 ]

krisskross

  js user
  music enthusiast
 20 Feb 2008 11:21   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

Ok, he *acts* like he's bipolar.. I'm no expert and never claimed to be. I've been in her situation and I'm just going off the emotions I had at that time. So, ~excuse me~

Mentally ill or just plain angry, I'm not treating him in any special way or anyway at all for that matter.. he's cut and that's that. Picking apart what's wrong with him won't change what has already been done.

Hopefully enough people will realize how serious this really is for the safety of our friend. And if someone sees her & him within the same area of eachother, they'll know what to do. Hopefully he's so embarrassed he just ends up going to a completely different scene of people altogether, like a church or something beneficial for everyone.

I support good times and good vibes. I love my friends and support those that are good to me and good to others. She's got more support than she knows and that's what really matters. Much love and support from my end.
xoxox

unifire

  moderator
  subscriber
  dancer
 20 Feb 2008 11:21   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

oh God you were the one going into it from the beginning, now i'm the bad guy who has no respect starting another debate on a thread. whatever

blaze13

  hardcore
  dancer
 20 Feb 2008 11:25   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

Here use this one
Photobucket
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According to 4_.phrantek._4 ...

Amen. And I think it would probably be wise to make sure his picture is posted at events and within the possession of security staff there.

If we have learned nothing else from the tragedies that have touched our scene, it should be that we NEED to be proactive.

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According to chrisk ...

i don't think any of us are qualified to diagnose him bipolar or anything else, other than the fact he definitely needs some serious help. without it things will definitely get worse for him.

we all definitely have your back girl, and should you need anything please reach out to us. we're all here for you.
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[ blaze13 - 20 Feb 2008 12:02 ]

[ blaze13 - 20 Feb 2008 12:02 ]

jigsaw

  hardcore
  dancer
 20 Feb 2008 12:19   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

This really sucks. I hope she is okay.

chopudown

  candidate
  Agent
 20 Feb 2008 12:19   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

sounds like the guy was beaten by his father or relative when he was growing up.

its a vicious cycle that is extremely hard to stop. usually ending in incarceration, which sounds just.

press charges on him, maybe he'll get lucky and play the mental card and recieve the treatment he NEEDS.

krysis

  random title
  dj
 20 Feb 2008 12:52   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

where did this happen at??

dtraxx

  random title
  dj
 20 Feb 2008 12:53   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

Well we know it wasn't Adrenaline cuz' this would've got handled.

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According to krysis ...

where did this happen at??
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djaware

  random title
  designer
 20 Feb 2008 12:55   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

Another picture...

[eecue says: no incriminating photos on js]

krysis

  random title
  dj
 20 Feb 2008 12:57   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

haha..thats what i was gonna say. i thought i missed sumthin after i left las night. that fool def woulda got handled..

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According to dtraxx ...

Well we know it wasn't Adrenaline cuz' this would've got handled.

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According to krysis ...

where did this happen at??
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clone

  js regular
  lush
 20 Feb 2008 12:58   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

Anyone who beats up on woman are spinless! Is that a picture of the slug??

dubsteppa1

  candidate
 20 Feb 2008 13:03   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

people who hit females are str8 scums. you've got my full support on this.

ban this guy!

clone

  random title
  lush
 20 Feb 2008 13:07   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

I have been under alot of stress lately... Well, looks like I found my new punching bag!

[ clone - 20 Feb 2008 13:29 ]

preyingmantas

  random title
  dancer
 20 Feb 2008 13:08   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

Reading this made me very sad and angry at the same time. WOW!

Not sure if I know the girl, but either way my heart is with you.

Press charges and never ever ever contact him again.

dubsteppa1

  candidate
 20 Feb 2008 13:13   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

this guy belongs behind bars.

stoned_bluntgod

  js regular
 20 Feb 2008 13:46   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

Is that Mc Dre?

djbreezy

  new poster
  dj
 20 Feb 2008 13:49   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

Ya for sure. I practically been dealing with it with Lila for all these years. So many times i have heard about nick breaking her phone, f**king up her car, beating her up, and just abusing the s**t outta her!!! So many times I wanted to whoop his ass!!!! At least Dre kicked his ass outside Adrenaline That a boy Dre!!!! Thats my nukka Was anyone else there to see that?

[ djbreezy - 20 Feb 2008 14:50 ]

dtraxx

  random title
  dj
 20 Feb 2008 13:55   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

No it's not

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According to stoned_bluntgod ...

Is that Mc Dre?
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krysis

  random title
  dj
 20 Feb 2008 14:01   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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[closed]

Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

When did this happen??

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According to djbreezy ...

Ya for sure. I practically been dealing with it with Lila for all these years. So many times i have heard about nick breaking her phone, f**king up her car, beating her up, and just abusing the s**t outta her!!! So many times I wanted to whoop his ass!!!! At least Dre kicked his ass outside Adrenaline I heard Nicks ear still hurts cuz Andre broke his eardrum with a punch to the side of the head!!!!! That a boy Dre!!!! Thats my nukka Was anyone else there to see that?
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dancehallqueen

  js regular
 20 Feb 2008 14:09   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

i know i run the risk of giving this thread even more fuel... but i must say this.
this doesnt really need to be put on the message boards like this its pretty embarrassing for all parties involved and i dont think *the Girl* wants a pitty party did you ask her before you wre going to air all her dirty laundry out on js ??? furthermore who is anybody to be putting up pictures and trying to play hero ? if you feel concerned jungle scene is probably not the right place. how bout the police ?
dont you think you are just hyping the potential of more violence ?. give will be out again .trust this .. and now because of this thread how many of you want to "step" to him.. truthfully ?. violence creates more violence especially when you hype a crowd ....
xx
ps... they will probably be back together next week ...
i like them both but they are indeed crazy

djbreezy

  candidate
  dj
 20 Feb 2008 14:13   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

This happened a while back. Like when Bleu was still goin on the first time. I cant remember all the details cuz i poke alot of smot
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When did this happen??

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According to djbreezy ...

Ya for sure. I practically been dealing with it with Lila for all these years. So many times i have heard about nick breaking her phone, f**king up her car, beating her up, and just abusing the s**t outta her!!! So many times I wanted to whoop his ass!!!! At least Dre kicked his ass outside Adrenaline That a boy Dre!!!! Thats my nukka Was anyone else there to see that?
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[ djbreezy - 20 Feb 2008 14:50 ]

[ djbreezy - 20 Feb 2008 14:44 ]

blaze13

  hardcore
  dancer
 20 Feb 2008 14:16   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

Edited cuz im dine but this is my last word....


She knew about the post.. the right people are informed so all is good..
as stated previous no one wants to go out and kick his ass... what would you do if you saw your homegirl get f**ked with like that? I would hope that you would care enough

I guess we all have diff POV and have the right to state them

[ blaze13 - 20 Feb 2008 14:40 ]

noir

  js regular
  dj
 20 Feb 2008 14:17   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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[closed]

Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

"She" is fully aware and supportive of the thread and wants everyone to be aware of the situation for their safety and hers.

formerlymelicious

  js regular
 20 Feb 2008 14:25   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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[closed]

Re: ATTENTION: ‘Give’ (Nick) assaulted his ex-girlfriend-

Therapy is a beautiful thing when the person is receptive to it. However, laws are there for a reason. His mental illness is not an excuse for his actions or a deviation from the consequences. Non-violent or not jail is a tool, therapy is a treatment.

My advice is for all of you who know her to support her in taking the steps necessary to end the cycle of abuse. There is a long running history here from what I can tell. There are many possible outcomes and most of them are worse for her not him. He's already chosen his path illness or not. Help her choose a better one for herself.

 

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