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djwhizard

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 27 Feb 2008 09:33   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

I love listening to mixes! And now I am so accustomed to listening to mixes - and songs presented as part of a mix (instead of tracks all by themselves).... that its hard for me to listen to an unmixed track on the radio or on a cd, ipod, or whatever, without becoming impatient and wanting to skip to the next track...

Plus, I'm so used to hearing a new track every 2-3 minutes (and often even quicker than that), that its hard to listen to one track on the radio or CD for 5+ minutes...

Anybody else get this way?

djpawn

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 27 Feb 2008 09:42   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

its prob all the vodka and redbull.



MAKE YOURSELF LISTEN TO FULL SONGS. haha. chill out let it ride and fight that A D D.

hehe.

rickschrode

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 27 Feb 2008 09:47   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

no problem listening to a full song, here.

mc.xyz

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 27 Feb 2008 09:50   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

Thus the problem with dnb imo mr. Whizard. I always wanted to produce a tune where in the end it just cuts off and just like random s**t happens and see if anyone actually makes it to that point of listening, ha. this is also why i think Reprazent was one of the best dnb albums (also along with Shanice's album) ever because every tune stood alone so well. I think more older tunes (no not cause i am an old bitter fogie) have stand alone power a bit moreso then new tunes and i think tunes with strong vocals stand alone better then any. songwriting is the same in every genre. the point of it is to keep the listener interested and engaged from start to end. there are some (but very few) dnb songs where i get mad if a dj mixes them out because they evolve so much and another beat layered with them does the song a disservice, imo. either way dnb is promarily dance/club music and like with all club musics s**t needs to s**t fast to keep the masses interest

broken_records

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 27 Feb 2008 09:50   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

i can't listen to intros or outros...only drops...


lol

and once i know the last verse is over in a song...unless there is something incredible coming its on to the next song....

s**t sometimes if i here just like a few bars of a song and i get the gist then i move on =((((((

djwhizard

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 27 Feb 2008 09:54   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

Why? Why force myself to listen to a full song if I start not feeling it, or get a little bored/impatient?

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According to djpawn ...

its prob all the vodka and redbull.



MAKE YOURSELF LISTEN TO FULL SONGS. haha. chill out let it ride and fight that A D D.

hehe.
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djwhizard

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 27 Feb 2008 09:57   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

But, I am not talking about DNB (or even electronica). I am talking about other types of music. If I am not 100% totally feeling a track on the radio, CD, ipod, whatever --- I'll probably be hittin' that skip button 1.5 minutes in...

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According to mc.xyz ...

Thus the problem with dnb imo mr. Whizard. I always wanted to produce a tune where in the end it just cuts off and just like random s**t happens and see if anyone actually makes it to that point of listening, ha. this is also why i think Reprazent was one of the best dnb albums (also along with Shanice's album) ever because every tune stood alone so well. I think more older tunes (no not cause i am an old bitter fogie) have stand alone power a bit moreso then new tunes and i think tunes with strong vocals stand alone better then any. songwriting is the same in every genre. the point of it is to keep the listener interested and engaged from start to end. there are some (but very few) dnb songs where i get mad if a dj mixes them out because they evolve so much and another beat layered with them does the song a disservice, imo. either way dnb is promarily dance/club music and like with all club musics s**t needs to s**t fast to keep the masses interest
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djwhizard

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 27 Feb 2008 09:59   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

that is exactly what i mean...

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According to broken_records ...

...and once i know the last verse is over in a song...unless there is something incredible coming its on to the next song....

s**t sometimes if i here just like a few bars of a song and i get the gist then i move on =((((((
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broken_records

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 27 Feb 2008 10:01   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

its just part of how we take in media now...

i counteract it by reading and watching long movies....

mtv, advertising, djing these things are training us to respond to quick changes

i don't think there is anything wrong with that

you should enjoy music how you enjoy it

you wanna listen to:

Coming Down The Mountain, I'm Proud to Be Black Y'All,Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery,Now here's a little Story I have to Tell,With or Without You,

then do it =)
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According to djwhizard ...

But, I am not talking about DNB (or even electronica). I am talking about other types of music. If I am not 100% totally feeling a track on the radio, CD, ipod, whatever --- I'll probably be hittin' that skip button 1.5 minutes in...

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According to mc.xyz ...

Thus the problem with dnb imo mr. Whizard. I always wanted to produce a tune where in the end it just cuts off and just like random s**t happens and see if anyone actually makes it to that point of listening, ha. this is also why i think Reprazent was one of the best dnb albums (also along with Shanice's album) ever because every tune stood alone so well. I think more older tunes (no not cause i am an old bitter fogie) have stand alone power a bit moreso then new tunes and i think tunes with strong vocals stand alone better then any. songwriting is the same in every genre. the point of it is to keep the listener interested and engaged from start to end. there are some (but very few) dnb songs where i get mad if a dj mixes them out because they evolve so much and another beat layered with them does the song a disservice, imo. either way dnb is promarily dance/club music and like with all club musics s**t needs to s**t fast to keep the masses interest
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metaphase

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 27 Feb 2008 10:22   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

lol, guilty here as well.

Grandmaster flash and the Sugarhill gang truely helped me with that.

I popped them in my cd playr the othr day and haven't taken it out yet. true classic beats, and like 5 mc's on each tune. truely sick.

my remidy : smoke a blunt, and throw in sum Master Gee hah.

edit for spellin'

[ metaphase - 27 Feb 2008 10:45 ]

take_me_back_to_la

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 27 Feb 2008 10:25   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

Information overload
(or music overload in this case)

leads to apathy

which ultimately makes us bitter
leading to...

this post


But serial, info overload is a problem in modern day society...
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its just part of how we take in media now...

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prowl

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 27 Feb 2008 11:00   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

im glad to hear im not the only person out there that does this!

peterbe

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 27 Feb 2008 11:07   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

100% feel you on that

sometimes i force myself to let tracks play till the 2nd drop.

djpawn

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 27 Feb 2008 11:13   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

Orbital's "the box" is one of my favorite songs and its 28 minutes long... i dunno.

we are all conditioned to want need things to happen quickly. that is how it is now. and i definately dj that way.. but when im listening to songs (unless they are very disposable dance tunes) i like to listen to the whole thing.

not saying i get my moments where im flipping all the time but for the most part i like to let things play out.

probable_cause

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 27 Feb 2008 11:20   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

Audio A.D.D.

vigilante

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 27 Feb 2008 11:42   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

generally speaking with "dance" music, its dj music. its not really supposed to be listened to from start to finish. the intros and outros have made themselve appear throughout the growth and lifespan, which is constantly chhanging, and seem to be disappearing , depending on what sub genre of whatever subgernre is the topic. thinkback for a second.most old skool techno/rave had very short intros. as the gernre mutated, the intros seemed to get longer to suit the style of djing involved, as well as outros.
edit.
seems to me , in general , they are getting shorter again..
whatever

[ vigilante - 27 Feb 2008 12:06 ]

missbassie

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 27 Feb 2008 11:50   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

i used to be that way and now i'm not....
perhaps it is a phase

step_correct

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 27 Feb 2008 12:19   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

Wow, I've actually always had a problem with this. Still kinna do.. It kind of defeats the purpose if you ask me.
I used to get all miffed driving in a car with people that would have a bunch of non-mixed songs playing. I still feel this way.

paul_b

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 27 Feb 2008 13:30   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

Sure, if I’m not in the mood to listen to a particular song I’ll skip it, change it, whatever.. But in general if I like a song, I like to listen to the whole thing. To me songs/tracks are like little musical journeys or stories, and if it’s good I don’t want an abridged version. Of course if you’re talking about a mix it’s a different story.. But even then you want dynamics. A good intro tune, an occasional break down, not just drop after drop after drop. I do think though that in general peoples attention spans are getting shorter.. It’s so easy now a days to quickly move on to the next thing, be it the next song, channel, web site etc..

luciphercolors

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 27 Feb 2008 13:31   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

Funny, I use to hate how DJs would cut to the next track before the current one was finished. Pissed me off to no end...

devoe

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 27 Feb 2008 14:50   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

I haven't read all the posts, so this point may have been brought up already, but most dnb is not designed to be listened to fully from start to end. No one wants to hear 32 or 64 bars of just drums and a little synth line or maybe some vocal repeating itself (i.e. the intro). Producers design tunes for dj's so there are parts that you could probably cut out that are for mixing in/out of that you wouldn't necessarily have if the tune was designed for someone to listen to. There are exceptions of course. People like High Contrast, Klute, Teebee I think are good examples of artists who make dnb songs that you can listen to all the way, but even they have some tunes that include 'dj elements'.

Edited cuz I just read that Whizard can't listen to full 'regular' songs too. Well man, there is this pill called Ritalin that helps a lot of my students learn Math....soooo, yeah. lol

I know what you're saying man. I get into a mood sometimes where I just wanna hear new s**t all the time and keep skipping to the next track once I get the gist of the tune. I think it's a product of being a dj, cause that's how I'll listen to tunes at a record store. However, there's just some music I GOTTA hear the whole way thru: Pink Floyd = good example.

[ devoe - 27 Feb 2008 15:21 ]

sweetmommak

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 27 Feb 2008 15:05   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

lol, you listen to the radio?!
whoa, I COULDN'T!
Gatta be able to flip! Yeah yeah, A.D.D. for sure!
Def gotten used to music surfing at my own speed. ;-)

origin

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 27 Feb 2008 15:31   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

Full Songs > Mixes

ro

djwhizard

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 27 Feb 2008 15:46   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

When I am listening to other kinds of music, lets say for example, old school r&b or soul - and I am really diggin' the tunes, sometime I think to myself, man - I would enjoy this much more if there was a really good mix/set of all these awesome tracks. once i get 3 minutes into any of the songs individually, i get the gist of the song, and start thinking - lets bring in the next track already.... haha

kinda the opposite of what you said...

Mixes > Full Songs

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Full Songs > Mixes

ro
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mctez

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 27 Feb 2008 16:08   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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I have HDADD....I cant remember much about a toon, but when I do, its exceptionally clear.

step_correct

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 27 Feb 2008 16:25   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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According to djwhizard ...

When I am listening to other kinds of music, lets say for example, old school r&b or soul - and I am really diggin' the tunes, sometime I think to myself, man - I would enjoy this much more if there was a really good mix/set of all these awesome tracks. once i get 3 minutes into any of the songs individually, i get the gist of the song, and start thinking - lets bring in the next track already.... haha

kinda the opposite of what you said...

Mixes > Full Songs

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According to origin ...

Full Songs > Mixes

ro
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Here man, I think this is sorta the kind of thing you had in mind?

www.zshare.net/audio/733221998d8dbb/


It's like Whoa?!? You mean I can DJ ANYTHING?!? :cool:



Dj Magneto A.K.A. ERS-1

Sea Koala Heartbreaks pt. 2


1- The Shadow of Lo – Chick Corea
2- Baby Come Back – Player
3- Lovers Rock – Sade
4- Move On Up (break) – The Dynamics
5 - Unbreak my dub - jstar
6 – My Demons – Distance
7 - Wasted Time Feat. Vikter Dupla - Jazzanova
8 - Holding You loving You - Don Blackman
9 - Love for the Sake of Love - Claudja Barry
10 -Georgy Porgy (Brubekk re-re-Edit) - Toto
11 - Why - Carly Simon
12 - Keep on movin.. (In my life always edit)- Soul II Soul
13 - Open Your Eyes - Bobby Caldwell
14 -Sensitivity - Ralph Tresvant
15 - All around the world (open hearted edit) - Lisa Stansfield
16 - Set Adrift On Memory Bliss - PM Dawn
17 - Only Love Can Break Your Heart - St Etienne
18 - No One (Pocketknife's Songs In the Life of Keys Remix)(Unbelievable edit) - Alicia Keys
19 - Kool and The Gang - Too Hot
20 - I'm Out Of Your Life - Arnie's Love
21 - "T" Plays It Cool - Marvin Gaye
22 - Blood is Thicker- Ino Hidefumi
23 - Mona lisa (outro Walk on by edit) - Slick Rick
24 - Dominoes - Donald Byrd
25 - I Just Called To Say I Love You (Things that don't happen with out you edit) -Stevie Wonder
26 - Overpowered (Radio Edit) - Roisin Murphy
27 - Lettin' Go - Janelle Monae
28 - I'm Afraid the Masquerade is Over - David Porter
29 - Neither One Of Us (Wants To

[ step_correct - 27 Feb 2008 16:50 ]

luciphercolors

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 27 Feb 2008 16:34   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

This thread is exactly why we have radio edits...

piston22

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 27 Feb 2008 17:22   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

put on watermellon man by Herbie Hancock it is 14 minute of pure musical ecxstacy

djmedium

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 28 Feb 2008 08:54   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

...ah man, I'm all about the 'prog/jam/exp/psych/' bands with the 10+min.songs! ...that's all the stuff I'm accustomed to, compliments of my parents and their bizarre record collection. Attention to detail was a requirement in my family or I went to bed without any supper! . You'd think we lived in the 30's or something...all huddled around the living room, staring at the record player!LOL!! My dad all "Oh,oh,oh..wait listen to this part" as he played it back 7 times just to make sure we heard what he was hearing...As for dnb, um, can't do it though. Although I very much appreciate the subtleties, the formula and structure of the music is still too repetitive. But, that's dance music where the tunes need to keep the same tempo throughout.

djwhizard

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 28 Feb 2008 09:44   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Yeah man, already checked this out and love this mix! Great s**t.

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According to Step Correct biotch!

Here man, I think this is sorta the kind of thing you had in mind?

www.zshare.net/audio/733221998d8dbb/


It's like Whoa?!? You mean I can DJ ANYTHING?!? :cool:



Dj Magneto A.K.A. ERS-1

Sea Koala Heartbreaks pt. 2


1- The Shadow of Lo – Chick Corea
2- Baby Come Back – Player
3- Lovers Rock – Sade
4- Move On Up (break) – The Dynamics
5 - Unbreak my dub - jstar
6 – My Demons – Distance
7 - Wasted Time Feat. Vikter Dupla - Jazzanova
8 - Holding You loving You - Don Blackman
9 - Love for the Sake of Love - Claudja Barry
10 -Georgy Porgy (Brubekk re-re-Edit) - Toto
11 - Why - Carly Simon
12 - Keep on movin.. (In my life always edit)- Soul II Soul
13 - Open Your Eyes - Bobby Caldwell
14 -Sensitivity - Ralph Tresvant
15 - All around the world (open hearted edit) - Lisa Stansfield
16 - Set Adrift On Memory Bliss - PM Dawn
17 - Only Love Can Break Your Heart - St Etienne
18 - No One (Pocketknife's Songs In the Life of Keys Remix)(Unbelievable edit) - Alicia Keys
19 - Kool and The Gang - Too Hot
20 - I'm Out Of Your Life - Arnie's Love
21 - "T" Plays It Cool - Marvin Gaye
22 - Blood is Thicker- Ino Hidefumi
23 - Mona lisa (outro Walk on by edit) - Slick Rick
24 - Dominoes - Donald Byrd
25 - I Just Called To Say I Love You (Things that don't happen with out you edit) -Stevie Wonder
26 - Overpowered (Radio Edit) - Roisin Murphy
27 - Lettin' Go - Janelle Monae
28 - I'm Afraid the Masquerade is Over - David Porter
29 - Neither One Of Us (Wants To

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kellyd

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 28 Feb 2008 10:08   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Help! I can't listen to an entire song anymore! WTF???

I completly agree with you on this one.
Point in case...........
Apex feat Ayah - Space Between Us - Hospital Records

http://previews.trackitdown.net/preview/286624/preview_Apex_featuring_Ayah-Space_Between_Us-Hospital_Records.mp3

This song has got me playing it over and over in the car singing it etc.
Im a big tech drum n bass fan and this song strikes a big chord with me, and its more liquid.

Not alot of drum edits in the tune but her vocals carry the track beautifully!

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Thus the problem with dnb imo mr. Whizard. I always wanted to produce a tune where in the end it just cuts off and just like random s**t happens and see if anyone actually makes it to that point of listening, ha. this is also why i think Reprazent was one of the best dnb albums (also along with Shanice's album) ever because every tune stood alone so well. I think more older tunes (no not cause i am an old bitter fogie) have stand alone power a bit moreso then new tunes and i think tunes with strong vocals stand alone better then any. songwriting is the same in every genre. the point of it is to keep the listener interested and engaged from start to end. there are some (but very few) dnb songs where i get mad if a dj mixes them out because they evolve so much and another beat layered with them does the song a disservice, imo. either way dnb is promarily dance/club music and like with all club musics s**t needs to s**t fast to keep the masses interest
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