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Pendulum- Propane Nightmares

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/sm?C=PRO17086&S=a


This is so bad; it's like they're kidding.
Like they've become a parody of themselves.

[ selecta_u.s.marshall - 18 Mar 2008 09:38 ]

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they are definately sounding more like a band...maybe just going through a emo phase or something

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i like it. sounds like your basic pendulum track to me.
even sounds like if duran duran did a cover of submarines.

destined for mainstream, and im all for it!

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I love it! I think it's a great tune! I first heard on their set on NYE 07/08 and it killed! I like what they are doing now, plus they've got some siiick breaks tunes too!

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i think the second drop is pretty sik. rest of the tune is ok. very rock influenced, and mainstream but thats alright i guess. I can't hate in this one. end.

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the vocoder voice effect makes it a bit cheesy. always reminds me of cher's "do u believe in life after love" haha. woulda pleased me more if the vocal was less "wet". regardless, i think more dnb should follow a song-like structure i.e. intro, body, chorus, bridge, chorus etc.. i just wish these guys would change up there drum kit. it's always the same smashy snare. and those synth stabs need to be retired already. but the concept and song structure is dope. it will def open up the ears of the non-dnb listener which i'm all for.

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I gotta agree with US Marshall on this one... This tune sounds horrible to me...

Here is a better clip:

http://www.redeyerecords1.co.uk/sounds/12030.asf

D&B with a rock influence is one thing, rock with a D&B influence is not making it in my bag...

I don't care if someone else likes this, or plays it, just doesn't do it for me (aka my personal preference)

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I can't say that I agree with you. We should take the structure of drum&bass, or dance music --- and change it to a more generic / standard / traditional song structure? Why would that be better? I was drawn to drum & bass because of its differences.

We should homogenize it for the sake that more people will like it?

I'm all for opening up the ears of the non-dnb listener --- and bringing in new/more people... but compromising the music or pandering to mainstream sensibilities isn't necessarily the answer to do that...

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the vocoder voice effect makes it a bit cheesy. always reminds me of cher's "do u believe in life after love" haha. woulda pleased me more if the vocal was less "wet". regardless, i think more dnb should follow a song-like structure i.e. intro, body, chorus, bridge, chorus etc.. i just wish these guys would change up there drum kit. it's always the same smashy snare. and those synth stabs need to be retired already. but the concept and song structure is dope. it will def open up the ears of the non-dnb listener which i'm all for.
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You have to keep in mind that the market that pendulum is stepping into has not heard there snares, or synth stabs or that "pendulum sound". To most people this is a very new sound, and alot of non dnb people are taking a liking to Pendulum as an artists group rather than a dnb dj/producer outfit.


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According to jos ...

the vocoder voice effect makes it a bit cheesy. always reminds me of cher's "do u believe in life after love" haha. woulda pleased me more if the vocal was less "wet". regardless, i think more dnb should follow a song-like structure i.e. intro, body, chorus, bridge, chorus etc.. i just wish these guys would change up there drum kit. it's always the same smashy snare. and those synth stabs need to be retired already. but the concept and song structure is dope. it will def open up the ears of the non-dnb listener which i'm all for.
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I agree totally, they are reaching out to a non-dnb crowd now.

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According to uniteddnb ...

You have to keep in mind that the market that pendulum is stepping into has not heard there snares, or synth stabs or that "pendulum sound". To most people this is a very new sound, and alot of non dnb people are taking a liking to Pendulum as an artists group rather than a dnb dj/producer outfit.


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According to jos ...

the vocoder voice effect makes it a bit cheesy. always reminds me of cher's "do u believe in life after love" haha. woulda pleased me more if the vocal was less "wet". regardless, i think more dnb should follow a song-like structure i.e. intro, body, chorus, bridge, chorus etc.. i just wish these guys would change up there drum kit. it's always the same smashy snare. and those synth stabs need to be retired already. but the concept and song structure is dope. it will def open up the ears of the non-dnb listener which i'm all for.
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Lets all try to remember that they were in a band before they were pendulum, and that they probly want to be a big band more than they ever wanted to be intl. Dj's.

I think what they are doing is great, there taking the dnb flavor that they have created over the years and are fusing in their roots to crteate their own sound.
Its different and i hope it gets noticed.

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hmmm...tough call here...

For almost as long as I can remember....since DnB came over to the US basically, I've always said that US mainstream audiences are so conditioned to the structure of intro/verse/pre-chorus/chorus/verse/bridge/outro that it's SUPER difficult to get crossover success with our tunes. Euro audiences are MUCH more used to having instros play on the radio & therefore we do tend to see this reflected in the charts...

"Hold Your Colour" went Gold, & charted UK Dance #3 (2007)...UK Indie #5 (2007)!

How many other DnB artist releases can you pick out that have sold @ least 500K worth of units & can consistently chart internationally like Pendulum's tunes do??

I'm sorry, don't know about the rest of you, but I would LOVE to be a Gold / Platinum selling DnB artist with sold out shows @ spots like Wembley Stadium or MSG or Staples Center....

This tune sounds to me like the A&R staff came to them after doing some market research & told em, "THIS is what will put you over the top"...

I would love for them to win a Grammy or something for their new efforts, but don't get me wrong, while I pray that we will see their crossover success in the near future, I hope that they don't completely walk away from what got alot of us hooked on their sound in the process....but finding that happy medium is oftentimes QUITE elusive....

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like them or not... we are discussing what they are doing, how they sound and who they were. the tune doesnt sound that bad. it is typical pendulum crossover sound. now we can all proceed to start talking about how we miss the old pedulum sound or we can now say "i remember pendulum before they were pendulum."

lol... i jest in all this, but seriously go get yours pendulum =)

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random, but i was at dim mak tuesdays a week or two ago and they played nothing but pendulum tunes for like the first hour

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Yeah, totally agree.

And to be clear, I have nothing against Pendulum (or them "going for theirs") - there are a great number of Pendulum tunes that I completely love. But the more they reach out to new fans with that cross-over appeal, the less they appeal to me... in the same way that the more crossover that Aphrodite's sound got, the less he appealed to me.... but earlier in his career, Aphrodite had some completely amazing and classic tunes that weren't cheesy or cross-over in any fashion...

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According to soulidify ...

like them or not... we are discussing what they are doing, how they sound and who they were. the tune doesnt sound that bad. it is typical pendulum crossover sound. now we can all proceed to start talking about how we miss the old pedulum sound or we can now say "i remember pendulum before they were pendulum."

lol... i jest in all this, but seriously go get yours pendulum =)
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^^^^
yes i am completely js retarded and do not know how to quote you but, what you said.

why do you think this is steve?

aphrodite is crossover and it was one of the first cds i heard. after getting into dnb though... i believe that you go deeper than just aphrodite or pendulum... u discover teebee or whoever floats ur boat. some people want the aphrodite or pendulum and thats what they like. look at the fkn crowds they pull!

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When your sound is broad so is your audience.
Matt hit it on the head to.
That aphrodite cd that had the "Man Of Steel" track was the first dnb cd i ever bought.
And it was because...maybe.....at the same time i had my first bong shack.

When I heard that tune in my friends room i thought.....WOW, this is so cool. Then i searched for that track until i came upon that aphrodite cd.
Then after hearing the rest of the cd, i thought OMFG...this s**t is SOOOO FRESH!!!

And maybe that right there is the feeling that others are getting from Pendulum, but instead of Hip hop crossover, its more rock.


[ kellyd - 18 Mar 2008 11:29 ]
[ kellyd - 18 Mar 2008 11:28 ]

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This is a little too Nickleback for me, but you gotta give it to them for reaching a new audience.

The biggest shame is how hard the international DnB community hates on them. I mean, f**k, we finally got somebody pushing DnB to a wider audience, and now DnB doesn't want to have anything to do with them. Almost assures there won't be any follow-on success for anybody else . . .

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Exactly. And that is why I don't diss Pendulum for what they are doing. But at the same time, I'm not feelin' that sound at all (to be fair, I'm not really into that particular rock sound that they bring the vibe of).

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According to kellyd ...

When your sound is broad so is your audience.
Matt hit it on the head to.
That aphrodite cd that had the "Man Of Steel" track was the first dnb cd i ever bought.
And it was because...maybe.....at the same time i had my first bong shack.

When I heard that tune in my friends room i thought.....WOW, this is so cool. Then i searched for that track until i came upon that aphrodite cd.
Then after hearing the rest of the cd, i thought OMFG...this s**t is SOOOO FRESH!!!

And maybe that right there is the feeling that others are getting from Pendulum, but instead of Hip hop crossover, its more rock.


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I want to see Pendulum work with more artists. I think the possibilities would be endless. Imagine a Spor remix of "hold your color", or a collaboration with Roughcut or Raiden...

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...i dont hate this.

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if it wasnt for aphrodite and his hip hop crossover i would not be into drum and bass period. i still break that cd out from time to time.

i do remember people talking about the hip hop crossover and how it should be banned from drum and bass... lol yeah that really worked!

our genre is diverse... extremely diverse.

embrace diversity

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yo colonel... i was thinking the exact thing. just didnt know how to word it properly. i hear many people say... drum and bass has no audience... we need more people into dnb... what will it take to get dnb to the masses.

pendulum is doing it! i do not feel as though they have compromised the quality of there craft at all.

pendulum did not sell out people!

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i agree with the collab idea. it would be nice to hear pendulum do that more.

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I wanna hear "Vault" dropped at a party again.

Ohh and bassrush.......were waiting on the "Pendulum" live band slot at a future event.
I would go to any massive to see that.

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For this same reason pendulum decided to have another version of this song made for the hardcore dnb listener that i'm sure you'll love once you hear it...

Pendulum - Propane Nightmares (Clipz RMX).mp3



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According to selecta_u.s.marshall ...

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/sm?C=PRO17086&S=a


This is so bad; it's like they're kidding.
Like they've become a parody of themselves.

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I'm not saying that I don't like the cross-over style that they are doing. If and when the live act rolls through L.A., I will definitly go see them.

I am saying that this tune in particular is laughable. The singing is whiney and the lead is incredibly unimaginative.

It's great when they nail that cross-over sound (Hold Your Colour for example).

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BWAHAHAHAHAHA a clipz rmx of a pendulum tune... omfg i can hear it now... LOL!

i shouldnt pre judged but damn gina!

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Nice "Martin" reference. hahaha

I am still with US Marshall on this one, I don't hate what they are doing - but I particularly do not like much about this specific track.

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According to soulidify ...

BWAHAHAHAHAHA a clipz rmx of a pendulum tune... omfg i can hear it now... LOL!

i shouldnt pre judged but damn gina!
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Everytime i see this ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDInOAngMwY

everytime i am sad i watch this video and i am happy again.

pendulum making you laugh at their music.... videos


[ soulidify - 18 Mar 2008 13:03 ]
[ soulidify - 18 Mar 2008 13:02 ]

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I like it, but I come from a DnB background. So I can appreciate the quality of there production. If I was a normal (American) top 40 kind of guy , I'd probably think it sucked because I don’t like techno . I think it would fit more into the European mainstream then it would stateside. Hope it does well and they bring D n B into the mainstream everyone jumps on the bandwagon and starts a DnB band .

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They is live at Coachella this year bruv after I had a word in the promoters ear and tried to bring em out last year.

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this is shockingly bad. i wish Pendulum would just go away and stop making a mockery of D&B.


Goldie speaks the truth about Pendulum in this interview....

http://www.newcastlebeats.com/viewvideo.php?t=6483



good to see industry heads not afraid of being labeled "haters".

[ donny - 18 Mar 2008 15:31 ]

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it's like the theme song to some pokemon rip off


i feel like i might like this if i was five years old and hadn't spent 30 years refining my tastes

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man that live show is seriously the musical equvilent of getting a faux-hawk at super cuts.

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hahahahah, that made me almost spit out my red bull while i was reading that.

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According to broken_records ...

it's like the theme song to some pokemon rip off


i feel like i might like this if i was five years old and hadn't spent 30 years refining my tastes
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if a song makes you do the "carlton" dance, it must be dismissed......sounds like duran produced by pet shop boys

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who outside of dnb hardcore followers was really checkin' for goldies last album...really?

thats your stereotypical old ass dnb nigga response though.
im sure pendulum feels like they came from rock/punk instead of dnb. dudes were in punk bands waaaay before they ever heard of dnb.

keep grinding pendulum at least people are listening to you...

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According to donny ...

this is shockingly bad. i wish Pendulum would just go away and stop making a mockery of D&B.


Goldie speaks the truth about Pendulum in this interview....

http://www.newcastlebeats.com/viewvideo.php?t=6483



good to see industry heads not afraid of being labeled "haters".

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I cant help but agree with jayvon here.
They were all in bands before they produced "Vault" (which was their first colaborative effort as Pendulum).

To hate on them for being the way they are is just wrong.
You cant tell people how to live their lives, so why should people tell them how and what to produce.

Music is an art and they have a vision, let them paint it for petes sake!!!!!

Its cool if you dont like it, but you cant knock their drive and passion for what they are achieving.

Im sure its thier dream!
I say live it up Pendulum!



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According to jayvon ...

who outside of dnb hardcore followers was really checkin' for goldies last album...really?

thats your stereotypical old ass dnb nigga response though.
im sure pendulum feels like they came from rock/punk instead of dnb. dudes were in punk bands waaaay before they ever heard of dnb.

keep grinding pendulum at least people are listening to you...

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According to donny ...

this is shockingly bad. i wish Pendulum would just go away and stop making a mockery of D&B.


Goldie speaks the truth about Pendulum in this interview....

http://www.newcastlebeats.com/viewvideo.php?t=6483



good to see industry heads not afraid of being labeled "haters".

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Lets hear the bands they were in before , maybe we can hate on them instead . hate hate hate hate I'm junglist ! hate hatehate hate the mainstream sucks ! hate hate hate where's my hoodie ? hate hate hate hate Keep jungle underground for the underground !! hate hate ....Man this s**t is getting old. Call me jaded or whatever but Jungle is the only thing holding back jungle . Pendulum should be priased for even trying to incorparate DnB into there band (I know it's there sound and thats why they got signed in the firsat place etc ) If they were really trying to go 100 % sell out they would probaly just drop the DnB and just use there infamous snare and rock out like nickel back .



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I cant help but agree with jayvon here.
They were all in bands before they produced "Vault" (which was their first colaborative effort as Pendulum).

To hate on them for being the way they are is just wrong.
You cant tell people how to live their lives, so why should people tell them how and what to produce.

Music is an art and they have a vision, let them paint it for petes sake!!!!!

Its cool if you dont like it, but you cant knock their drive and passion for what they are achieving.

Im sure its thier dream!
I say live it up Pendulum!



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According to jayvon ...

who outside of dnb hardcore followers was really checkin' for goldies last album...really?

thats your stereotypical old ass dnb nigga response though.
im sure pendulum feels like they came from rock/punk instead of dnb. dudes were in punk bands waaaay before they ever heard of dnb.

keep grinding pendulum at least people are listening to you...

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According to donny ...

this is shockingly bad. i wish Pendulum would just go away and stop making a mockery of D&B.


Goldie speaks the truth about Pendulum in this interview....

http://www.newcastlebeats.com/viewvideo.php?t=6483




good to see industry heads not afraid of being labeled "haters".

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[ andrade - 18 Mar 2008 17:53 ]

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Haven't heard it but i'm sure it's LAME, like every other tune they've ever helped ruin dnb with. It's really unfortunate too because they are really very talented musicians/engineers.

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...actually, lemme retract the "help ruin" statement. Bitter choice of words, and i am far from bitter. There are heeps of producers creating exceptional dnb! Some on the forefront, some remain behind the curtain (as far as the mass perspective) and some up and comers all doing their thing. But, is it me or is a good part of introducing dnb to new listeners the past few years been with this sound? Obviously it has done something right!...right? 8ringing the kids in droves! Super! Having this as the lure has been a godsend!."Hey everybody, this is what drum n' bass is! boh!". To me i feel that this sound = commercial/radio rap in hip hop. Sell,sell,sell! Dilute,dilute,dilute! Exploit,exploit,exploit!!....i love it! I Rather it that sound than the brand i'm into! Come on, everyone has had, in any form of music, that hidden gem you found and loved until everyone found out about it. You then knew it was time to leave that behind and find something else! I don't want that for me in this genre! Keep listening people. THIS is drum n'bass!Thank you Pendulum, thank you Subfocus! :-)

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from one unstereotypical old ass dnb nigga to another, I love you man. You always say exactly what i'm thinking but "the code" doesn't allow me to type. ;-)

Hahahhaha,


D...

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According to jayvon ...

who outside of dnb hardcore followers was really checkin' for goldies last album...really?

thats your stereotypical old ass dnb nigga response though.
im sure pendulum feels like they came from rock/punk instead of dnb. dudes were in punk bands waaaay before they ever heard of dnb.

keep grinding pendulum at least people are listening to you...

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According to donny ...

this is shockingly bad. i wish Pendulum would just go away and stop making a mockery of D&B.


Goldie speaks the truth about Pendulum in this interview....

http://www.newcastlebeats.com/viewvideo.php?t=6483



good to see industry heads not afraid of being labeled "haters".

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Cheesy yes... I guess its the sound they are going after. I agree with djMedium it sounds like radio hip hop ya know? That s**t kinda "Grinds my gears" But the mass enjoy it.

As much as they are bashed upon by very talented people around the world I gotta have a little respect for them cuz they bring more people into this music that we all love so much...

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i hate the neener synth in the first place, and this is definately the most cliche use of it yet. thank god marshall i thought that you were gonna start a pendulum appreciation thread.

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BIG props to pendulum for their success, marketability, and talent..

BIG poops on this song tho. yuk. i hate rock and dnb together.. esp this tune.





but thats my opinion

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Jayvon.........

is having people outside of D&B checkin your album all that matters though? what's the point of appealing to the masses if what you're grabbing their attention with isn't D&B in the first place? do you think all the "new" fans pendulum are going to make from this track are going to be listening to paradox in a few months? i doubt it.

all they're doing is making people outside of D&B think that D&B is some kind of synthy, rock, dance music. obviously they can make whatever kind of music they want. just don't call it drum & bass.

i've never been a pendulum basher and i stuck up for them even after slam but this is just garbage and i'm very surprised that there's any junglists still supporting them after the comments they made on DOA.

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wait.
hold the phone.

dnb ISNT synthy rock dance music??

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ugh...

at least not the kind i've been buying!



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wait.
hold the phone.

dnb ISNT synthy rock dance music??
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Funny, I just posted a blog today about how much i love Pendulum's Liquid sounds.... haha

a while back,
I met these punk rockers and they were all stoked because they were going to Pendulum show. It was a bit disturbing at first but HEY if the music reaches more people I guess that is what it is all about.

Kinda unifies us.


I went to see them last year and it was quite like a loud rock concert.
Still though, I was hoping to hear some of there DnB sound....


[ missbassie - 19 Mar 2008 16:26 ]
[ missbassie - 19 Mar 2008 16:25 ]