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moshing & dnb ...

moshing to dnb is f**king stupid and embarrassing to see.

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I don't know: at the Lovefest up here a few weeks back, the DnB float had a good 1000 people plus losing their s**t, and a pit opened up in the middle of it. I thought it was funny, and really amped up the energy/mayhem . .

and then thankfully ended about 15 minutes later.

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agreed

after Saturday at Monster... i was thinking the same thing.

save that ish for the Marlyn Manson concert

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1. Old annoying topic


2. STFU and get out of the pit if you don't like it.


3. If you're an MC or DJ... Why are you going to hate on the ppl showing you the most energy?


4. STFU and get out of the pit if you don't like it!

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I'm not gonna tell people to stop moshing, but I appreciate the low volume of mosh pits at dnb events.

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1. Old annoying topic
AGREED

2. STFU and get out of the pit if you don't like it.
Sometimes you don't cross the pit, the pit crosses you. Not to mention it leads to fights, girls getting elbowed in the face, drinks getting knocked on the ground, and precious dancefloor space getting used up by people skipping around in a circle elbowing girls in the face (on accident).

3. If you're an MC or DJ... Why are you going to hate on the ppl showing you the most energy?
I don't hate on people showing energy or dancing (even if they dance terrible, it is always appreciated). However, moshing often prevents lots of other people from having as good of a time. It is kind of a selfish reaction to music, i.e. "get the f**k out of my way - I want to push people and use up other people's personal space, and if you don't like it, f**k you!"


4. STFU and get out of the pit if you don't like it!
See response to number two
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In terms of space, I actually get more irritated with the breakdancers. That is, at least moshers are "using" the space they steal from the dancefloor. But the b-boys demand a wide-open zone circle where they can show off. If they're in the back, fine, but when they come into the middle of a packed floor and demand I step aside so they can put on a show to compete with the show I came to see?

Not. Bloody. Likely.

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Sometimes "Brockin Out" just aint enough.

And, no, you will never see me in one of them things. No one wants me swingin my arms around wildly... HAHA! Understand how it breaks out though.

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In LA, that used to be somewhat of an issue... but in the last four years or so, the break circles almost always form in the back or side of the club. Almost never in front of the DJ in main dancefloor realty.

The breaking/popping community shows mad love and support for dnb, and venues like Respect have incorporated them in with DNB by having BBOY nites, having them perform on stage with the DJ, etc. etc. It has been a good combination.

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In terms of space, I actually get more irritated with the breakdancers. That is, at least moshers are "using" the space they steal from the dancefloor. But the b-boys demand a wide-open zone circle where they can show off. If they're in the back, fine, but when they come into the middle of a packed floor and demand I step aside so they can put on a show to compete with the show I came to see?

Not. Bloody. Likely.
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is this still an issue? i haven't really being going out much, but i recall this dying down a few years ago.

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Touché...
Good argument there.


but oh it's just sooo good to be selfish sometimes...


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3. If you're an MC or DJ... Why are you going to hate on the ppl showing you the most energy?
I don't hate on people showing energy or dancing (even if they dance terrible, it is always appreciated). However, moshing often prevents lots of other people from having as good of a time. It is kind of a selfish reaction to music, i.e. "get the f**k out of my way - I want to push people and use up other people's personal space, and if you don't like it, f**k you!"

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@ eecue: no, it isn't really an issue anymore.

Honestly, the occasional pit that isn't too rowdy or out of control doesn't really bother me. Its cool to see people get really into a track and just go off, but if it happened on a regular basis, it would get pretty annoying having to worry about staying away from the pit all the time.

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According to proper_rx ...

Touché...
Good argument there.


but oh it's just sooo good to be selfish sometimes...


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According to djwhizard ...

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According to proper_rx ...

3. If you're an MC or DJ... Why are you going to hate on the ppl showing you the most energy?
I don't hate on people showing energy or dancing (even if they dance terrible, it is always appreciated). However, moshing often prevents lots of other people from having as good of a time. It is kind of a selfish reaction to music, i.e. "get the f**k out of my way - I want to push people and use up other people's personal space, and if you don't like it, f**k you!"

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Dont get me wrong i love to get rowdy when the music is hard but i agree it can be silly at times

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Since this has come up again... gotta say BIG UP MC QUESTIONMARK on the moshing crowd control tip.

He straight STOPS the DJ if there is ever a girl up front gettin moshed on/in an unsafe situation. srsly a genuine gent. He's saved my drunk ass a few times

and yeah, moshing is way annoying...
i would much rather give the space to a Bboy

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According to take_me_back_to_la ...

Since this has come up again... gotta say BIG UP MC QUESTIONMARK on the moshing crowd control tip.

He straight STOPS the DJ if there is ever a girl up front gettin moshed on/in an unsafe situation. srsly a genuine gent. He's saved my drunk ass a few times

and yeah, moshing is way annoying...
i would much rather give the space to a Bboy
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he let them know at Monster as well...
stopped the tune and let them have it

"your chasing all the pretty girls away... girls don't like moshing"

GO QUE!

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THIS!

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According to scooba ...

he let them know at Monster as well...
stopped the tune and let them have it

"your chasing all the pretty girls away... girls don't like moshing"

GO QUE!
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According to take_me_back_to_la ...

Since this has come up again... gotta say BIG UP MC QUESTIONMARK on the moshing crowd control tip.

He straight STOPS the DJ if there is ever a girl up front gettin moshed on/in an unsafe situation. srsly a genuine gent. He's saved my drunk ass a few times

and yeah, moshing is way annoying...
i would much rather give the space to a Bboy
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he let them know at Monster as well...
stopped the tune and let them have it

"your chasing all the pretty girls away... girls don't like moshing"

GO QUE!
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Buhahaha no s**t!
thats awsum
ah man, im sure it was a mad house in front of that stage

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I am fine with moshing @ D&B shows as long as the people in the pit are respectful of people who do not want to participate.

This reminds me of the time I saw a 100 person pit open up during a Marcus Intelex set, that was amusing...

-origin

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i usually just stick my leg out and wait for a mosher to trip and fall LOL

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i don't even care for the pit when it's a band playing. but, when el hornet dropped bloodsugar for the first time at the vanguard, that was awesome! the front 300 people all churning!!! i ended up 15 feet back from where i was, and i wasn't trying.

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I actually got caught up in the pit one time at RESPECT and horrible horrible bruises for weeks afterward. I got knocked to my knees then they kept jumping on top of my legs and I couldn't get up.

Mosh and what not. But be aware of who you are running into.. Proper moshing is NOT PUSHING PEOPLE WITH YOUR ARMS.

I see cats full on lunging towards other people with arms at eye level. That is attacking.. They are not even listening to the music.

No ON MOSH 8 - don't hate

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moshing was always harmless fun, but some guys are douches. gotta respect the peoples spaces, but somtimes its just fun. Try to not get aggresive when tech itch drops pressure drop into bring tha rukus vip... I'm not championing the cause, I just think it's funny how anti some people are about it.


I've had far more friends kicked in the face by out of control breakers than moshers... its all just a question of respect for your fellow party goer.

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i think it should be acceptable under one condition.

when the Pendulem remix of Linkin Park is played.

also i believe, and i'm sure 4.phrantik.4 can back me up on this, but the power unleashed from Pendulem remixing Linkin Park will either create anti-matter, or open a wormhole to the 2nd dimension as punishment for allowing such perversions to be created.

i also believe the Large Hadron Collider is working on this remix project as well.

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it's all good.
just have some respect for the ladies who don't wanna mosh .........

[ bludklahtz - 27 Oct 2008 19:24 ]

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According to bludklahtz ...

it's all good.
just have some respect for the ladies who don't wanna mosh .........

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and the old people like me with a bad knee...

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I don't get moshing? When I hear something I love, I cringe and ride it!

LOL!

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i say leave it out of dnb and go listen to gabber.
brocking out is one thing but it sucks being around someone that needs to release sexual tension by stomping on some skulls

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"your chasing all the pretty girls away... girls don't like moshing...."

That was the story of the demise of girls coming to DATABASS back in the days...and Q knows it. Take a page out of your Junglist Elders book:

When DATABASS first started there was maaaaaaad girls coming through, even though it was a real sketchy neighborhood.
However, after a couple of times getting a $10 cosmopolitan getting spilled down their new blouse and then being smashed into the bar by some manic junglist...they began to disappear... extremely quickly.

The vibe back then was dark ass grimey tech step bidnezz, so it was real cool to see girls come thru and support....but soon they got scared away and it ended up being a sausage fest.

Djing to a bunch of stoned, headnodding dudes in hoodies is how I love to spend my Saturday nights........................................................NOT!

A word of advice...If you want the gal dem there, act like a gentleman and show them some respect...if you wanna see them disappear and turn the club into "Man United" then go right ahead and keep on moshin dude!

The one exception for me (and I know girls mosh too and I know I've moshed with the wreckntion crew and at other various shows) it did seem quite fitting at Pendulum the other night....Guitars and mosh pits seem to go hand in hand....moshing with turntables around doesn't seem like such a good idea, it makes the records skip bruv....innit!

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well as I used to say in the old thread mosh all you want but if you spill my drink you are gonna get punched in the face... so stay your ass in the pit and away from my drink....

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and if I see you elbow a girl in the face guess what is gonna happen to you??

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For some reason people were moshing to LTJ BUKEM droppin some of the sexiest dnb at Monster.... that was pretty stupid i think.... not cool to see half naked 15 year old girls getting elbowed and shoved.... moshing to INTALEX sounds odd too

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rocking out is one thing but it sucks being around someone that needs to release sexual tension by stomping on some skulls

BWHAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH falling out of chair...now

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well as I used to say in the old thread mosh all you want but if you spill my drink you are gonna get punched in the face...


rolling on the ground...now

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it did seem quite fitting at Pendulum the other night....Guitars and mosh pits seem to go hand in hand....moshing with turntables around doesn't seem like such a good idea, it makes the records skip bruv....innit!

WORD!





I know, its only rock n roll...but i like it.... i like it....



twitching on the floor....now...


thank you

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I use to love to mosh ...to punk rock. But i understand the desire to do so to some dnb - its that similar energy that was part of the strong gravitational pull of dnb on me from the beginning. It was rebel music. punk was about like that to.
But to me part of being rebellious - was/is to NOT be selfish - . I remember being at a show with X - and i was into it... But most people - surprise surprise - were standing around not dancing or just moving around. I was pumped -i thought myself a tough little anarchist then - i didn't go launching myself into someone in front of me - i just stayed within an area and threw elbows et al and didn't involve people who otherwise didn't want to be involved. I prob looked like that classic drawing of a punk rocker (circle-jerks?) throwing his limbs around

I've seen some massive pits at like RATM shows or others... They look amazing - like a hurricane of people...
oh well, you know people get drunk get hyped- I've gotten involved with pits too.

Including one time i was recruited by a certain someone during a rave - to go out into the E-crusted crowd and ...push it around some...mischievous - not really cool - not my vibe really - plus some of the young ones didn't understand - they looked kind of hurt... i felt bad...

Other times I remember coming home from shows in LA with a sore back from getting smacked from behind as people were moshing - i was just trying to dance and basically acted as a shield for friends who were up in front of me - who otherwise would have been
knocked around by flying sweaty jungleist ...

lets just be careful out there ok? pick each other up

My name is johnny rotten, and i approve this message.

>spit

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this is still an issue...lol get over it...or get hyped!

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I can't mosh... I'm 6 foot 5 inches. My elbows are the same height as most people's faces.... not a good combo.


and I'm to busy doing the running man anyway

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"enh, thats kids stuff..."

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yup, it really is. as a teen and in my early 20's i was a-moshin' drunk fool. at times, it got old even then though, too. but yeah, too many spilled drinks, and ruined shirts, and close call fights drew me away from those pits.

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GET CRUNK N PUSH THE FUCK OUTTA SOMEBODY !! SOUNDS LIKE MY TYPE OF PARTY HAHA.

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see if dnb where a meat head or agro scene like the punks, then it would make sense, but if I am packing some hash on my bowl and I get pushed guaranteed someone will be hitting the floor fast.
and no one should put me in that position...

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ROFL!
You said the running man!
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I can't mosh... I'm 6 foot 5 inches. My elbows are the same height as most people's faces.... not a good combo.


and I'm to busy doing the running man anyway
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OX2QUW--ts

@ 6:30

nuff said!

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^^^^^

Big up LA's original Master of Ceremony's.


Classic mate.

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moshing? not anymore, but years and years and years ago I remember having a blast moshing. And its not moshing in the rock sense, its just a jumble of arms and legs owned by people who get overwhelmed by the overall vibe of the scene, its a slightly on beat thing that embodies the energy of the music.

That said, when I did it it was never with malicious intent and if you weren't into it none of the participants dragged unwilling people in. In fact I remember a few times where the moshing was just for a particular song, once the song was pulled from the mix people would revert to the normal program and just sort of look at each other like "whoa, that was FREAKING AWESOME!"


So the lesson is this, dont be a dick when you go crazy to music, this aint woodstock pt2 OR pt3, so dont try to take the energy and convert into some evil alt energy that consumes the party.

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Honestly, Moshing is not that annoying as long as it's held at a modest level. However, when people really start getting into the "i don't give a f**k" mood, then it really f**ks up my vibe.

For instance, many times at respect and bassrush events i've seen moshers just dance in a circle, lightly pushing each other, considering the people on the outside of the circle and dont even touch them. NOW that's ok

The itmes when MC questionmark actually stops the music just cuz of the stupid mosh pits get out of hand. NOW that's bad.


Just how there is a responsible level of drinking, there is a responsible level of moshing in dnb events.

MOSH RESPONSIBLY

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