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origin

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 17 Nov 2008 15:04   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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I love Horizons music, but....

The lead track from the Horizons Music album "Dreamthief" is the song "Alone" by Unknown Error.

Which is an uncredited bootleg of "Splittr - All Alone", one of the biggest dance tracks of 2007.

Insanely good bootleg, but I think it's pretty s**t to take a huge club track, nick the entire thing, speed it up, and release it on an album as original material. Tsk Tsk. Horizons is a better label than that, and Unknown Error should know better than to release other people's material as their own. If I'm missing something please inform me as to my mistake, but this appears to be the way it's rolling out...The only way this would be acceptable in my view is that the vocals were stolen in the first place (doubtful) or that Splittr gave Unknown Error the stems but didn't want any credit (Even more doubtful).

-origin

(Don't get me wrong tho, I bought it and am going to play it, its just a bit shady the way it's presented...)

[ origin - 17 Nov 2008 15:08 ]

metaphase

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 17 Nov 2008 15:23   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

Well thats the prob , you and everyone will play it anyways . I know i would too, i love Horizons but that sounds a bit fishy .

also - ur a talented guy , u should rinse ur own bootleg of it and say eff their version.

* Conspiracy Theory = Unknown Error IS splittr (?)

bryangamet

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 17 Nov 2008 15:25   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

isnt horizons also the same label that did about 100 remixes of aspect's 'its yours', not once releasing the original, nor paying the artists for half of the music on the label. i dont know but theres a pretty heated thread on doa about it.

magnafide

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 17 Nov 2008 18:58   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

i think the orig was released digitally.. dunno if that counts in your book tho hehe

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isnt horizons also the same label that did about 100 remixes of aspect's 'its yours', not once releasing the original, nor paying the artists for half of the music on the label. i dont know but theres a pretty heated thread on doa about it.
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pumpelmump

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 18 Nov 2008 22:55   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

Someone finally came forward about that then? LOL!

Link?


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nor paying the artists for half of the music on the label. i dont know but theres a pretty heated thread on doa about it.
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kingpin

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 19 Nov 2008 15:44   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

(Don't get me wrong tho, I bought it and am going to play it, its just a bit shady the way it's presented...)

Wasn't "I'll be there 4 U" the same thing? Just ripped off some trance tune, n made it a jungle anthem?

There's a few of these out there

djwhizard

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 19 Nov 2008 16:17   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

D.Kay & Rawfull : Be there 4 u - Freak Recordings ???

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According to kingpin ...

(Don't get me wrong tho, I bought it and am going to play it, its just a bit shady the way it's presented...)

Wasn't "I'll be there 4 U" the same thing? Just ripped off some trance tune, n made it a jungle anthem?

There's a few of these out there
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kingpin

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 19 Nov 2008 17:11   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

yeah, they ripped that from a big trance tune

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D.Kay & Rawfull : Be there 4 u - Freak Recordings ???

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pablohassan

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 19 Nov 2008 18:33   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

while we are on the subject of nicking a tune, making a slight change, then putting it out as original material...anyone notice the similarities between

chase & status - take me away

&

A.I. - Desperado



is it me or is take me away basically desperado???

djwhizard

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 20 Nov 2008 11:39   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

I heard that even our drum beats are just ripped off from other artists and presented as original material. The Winstons come to mind.

djwhizard

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 20 Nov 2008 11:43   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

Yeah, there are a few tunes out there that sound exactly like Desperado. Some other AI tunes come to mind. =]

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while we are on the subject of nicking a tune, making a slight change, then putting it out as original material...anyone notice the similarities between

chase & status - take me away

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A.I. - Desperado



is it me or is take me away basically desperado???
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obstrukt

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 20 Nov 2008 12:10   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

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I heard that even our drum beats are just ripped off from other artists and presented as original material. The Winstons come to mind.


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alexp

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 21 Nov 2008 10:17   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

there was a bunch of drama over this tune being released as Unknown Error, after they had split up and Apex started doing his own thing.

http://www.liftedmusic.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2014&highlight=unknown+error+alone


10 pages of it. It's really unentertaining, but... I agree, this tune could be sick if it had a huge drop

origin

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 21 Nov 2008 22:15   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

@ alex P

totally agree about the drop thing, the subs don't really do very much after the breakdowns.

-origin

hazenlovesvinyl

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 23 Nov 2008 23:33   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

i do agree - sometimes u hear a ripped tune and your jaw drops .. but wait a minute...isnt this kind of "sampling" a major part of the whole shady music buiz??? i mean come on...from jazz blues rock hip hop all the way to electro jungle dubstep- half of the big tunes we know on the radio or in the underground were ripped off in some way.. nature of the nasty beast we all love

hazenlovesvinyl

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 23 Nov 2008 23:35   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

BTW - personally i think Horizons fell off a while back

piston22

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 24 Nov 2008 10:25   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

"good artist borrow, great artist steal"
Pablo Picasso

4_.phrantek._4

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 24 Nov 2008 11:28   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

This = one of the best reasons to make your own drum kits and breaks.

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I heard that even our drum beats are just ripped off from other artists and presented as original material. The Winstons come to mind.


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alexp

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 24 Nov 2008 12:27   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: I love Horizons music, but....

If I thought sampling was just straight up ripping something off, I wouldn't love dance music as much as I do. But, I think there's a difference between sampling something, cutting it up and manipulating the f**k out of it to use it as an element of your own original song, and retaining the original idea for the mostpart and just making a dnb remix of... i don't know, a trance tune called All Alone by Splittr.

Like, do you think anyone would have posted this type of argument about the tune Screw Up by Ewun. I don't.

 

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