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LA DnB Is More Exciting than London DnB

Yo, so I was in London last week, and I gotta say: LA has passed it for DnB excitement. Don't get me wrong, the crowds were HUGE (the Playaz night at Fabric must have been 5000 or so), the people were generally pretty cool and the soundsystems probably still win. But in terms of energy--from the crowds, from the DJ's, from the MC's--LA has got it beat.

Big ups you so-cal bastards. If you don't already, appreciate what you've got.

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wow big statement there

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probably depends on the what kind of mood you are in, who's playing and whether someone spilled your drink or not

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I had thought the same thing last time I was there, but this confirmed it. At Swerve (Fabio's night at the End), and then again at Fabric (and previously at Movement and some big one-offs), it hit me that LA just has more electricity in the air. The people seem to be more into the music, are certainly more willing to throw it up, and the vibe just smells fresher (and so do the people, haha).

Not to diss London, which always rules, but only to big up LA.

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From what I've heard the majority of the UK crowds are more or less people out letting off steam and partying. Not every other person a DJ or promoter like in the states.

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Bow-chick-a-wow-wa

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In the words of Vincent Vega:

"That is a bold statement."

NICE

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i dare you to post this on DOA> :teeth:

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That's a very bold statement, I haven't been to any raves here yet to respond proper yet, can't wait to check a few. My mates back home still go raving though and say it's still proper live.

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Seconded on the DOA bit. Light the boards on fire!

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Apples and Oranges.

-origin

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I"m going to have to disagree. I just got back from London yesterday and saw quite the opposite of what you are saying. The crowds were intense, everyone was dancing and the sets were amazing. The reason you may feel this way is because there is some major world wide talent based out of London and they spin there all the time. So some of their line ups may seem like no big deal to locals there, but the crowd was still down with cause.

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If you keep saying it one day it will be true hopefully. I agree with Origin. Apples & Oranges. Two very different scenes.

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the dnb crowds in london are full of energy different scenes...

but I live in europe...and have a lot of friends in many countries who are into the elec tronic music scene..and really..outside of london(and even in london according to some older folks) dnb is not rally "cool" anymore.

In berlin for example the dnb parties are where all the kids in there early 20s go...similiar thing in BCN as well..and in edinburh..and dublin(to a lesser degree)

dnb is four younger kids in all these cities...

abywa..back to the topic at hand...

la DOES NOT havr london "beat" not by a long shot.. it is jsut different

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i say nay
i love la
but it can not be compared to london

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LOL @ not being able to compare things because they are different. I should compare things that are the same ("The LA scene is more exciting than the LA scene . . .")?

My point was only that I belive LA has more energy than London now. I've been visiting both cities for well over a decade, and I believe LA crowds are out in front of London in terms of excitment. It's been a slow change, but this last trip confirmed it.

I guess another way to say it is: I would rather party to DnB in LA than London now. The crowds are more up for it (and flail waaaaay less hard), the DJ's seem more up for it (and certainly, aren't just "going through the paces"), and the MC's are infinitely more practiced and respectful of the music.

I'm not saying LA is "better," because London still has many awesome elements LA can't touch (like crowd size, soundsystems, DJ selection; etc.), but it is currently the more exciting, vibrant place to catch DnB.

:thumbs up

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haha Go on Colonel. Say it louder!

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LOL @ not being able to compare things because they are different. I should compare things that are the same ("The LA scene is more exciting than the LA scene . . .")?

My point was only that I belive LA has more energy than London now. I've been visiting both cities for well over a decade, and I believe LA crowds are out in front of London in terms of excitment. It's been a slow change, but this last trip confirmed it.

I guess another way to say it is: I would rather party to DnB in LA than London now. The crowds are more up for it (and flail waaaaay less hard), the DJ's seem more up for it (and certainly, aren't just "going through the paces"), and the MC's are infinitely more practiced and respectful of the music.

I'm not saying LA is "better," because London still has many awesome elements LA can't touch (like crowd size, soundsystems, DJ selection; etc.), but it is currently the more exciting, vibrant place to catch DnB.

:thumbs up
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it almost sounded like you were gonna make the colonel's point. Ill take that and further elaborate that because they are spoiled they dont see it as being cool. Now lets inject some talent into the UK underground that isnt from London more often, coughLAcough, and it should spice things up a bit HOLLER.
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I"m going to have to disagree. I just got back from London yesterday and saw quite the opposite of what you are saying. The crowds were intense, everyone was dancing and the sets were amazing. The reason you may feel this way is because there is some major world wide talent based out of London and they spin there all the time. So some of their line ups may seem like no big deal to locals there, but the crowd was still down with cause.
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Understand that the youth of England are for the most part generally unemployed. To get away from ones dreary repetitive life under Her Majesty's Service , they get BONKERS on the weekend. From 10am to 6am+...trust.

I've been to shows of the frick'n hook in LA
I've been to shows of the frick'n hook in the UK

I say BA-NA-NAHH
You say BANANA

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yah, i agree with some posters, you cannot compare LA to the UK and say one is better than the other in terms of music, vibe, energy, or whatever. Like someone has stated, it is like apples to oranges.

I mean, big up to you goin to Fabric, which is my die hard place i would love to go to, but maybe during the time you went, the timing was off?

Picture it as a UK person going to How Sweet it is here in LA and then generalizing all the dnb parties out in LA.

Besides, NOTHING beats the originator of the Big 'Choonz.

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Yeah, DnBsteez, I would agree with you if I had been to London once, or to one club in LA; etc. But I've been to many clubs and one-offs in both cities many times over the past 10 years, and I believe there's been a change . . .

I think the older generation in London has fallen off, as somebody mentioned, and the younger kids don't seem to know why they're there. Definite drop in vibe--at Fabric, at Movement, at Swerve, at one-offs, at every DnB event I've been to in London over the past 2-3 years.

Los Angeles, on the other hand, seems to be going the other way, with nights getting better and better, and the excitement continuing to jack up.

But this is just my take, and as I said, my only intent was to big up LADnB!

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Since you said that you've been back and forth and gone to many of the UK dnb parties, i'll take your word for it!! in that case, long live LA DNB!!!

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I wouldn´t say that london electronic music heads have dropped off..they have just moved on...

I hate to say this...but dnb has bot been progressing at the rate that it used to progress at...and just like the uk most of the head into dnb are i the 18(or younger) to 22 range

look at respect..for example

I mean... a lot of older heads don´t listen to dnb because it ha gotten somewhat stale...and this is not only true in London.

I WAS involved in the la scene over a decade ago and the large majority of la heads I knew(who used to dj and promote and stuff) have moved on....

and a lot of UK djs(other than the big names) have a problem making a living like they use to...

in this way la actually might have London beat(soon) there seems to be a market for dnb here that is growing..the inverse seems to be true in Europe..and london

yeh

[ alan - 11 Dec 2008 15:46 ]

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[ mc.xyz - 11 Dec 2008 10:14 ]

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I cant speak for the London scene. But, what gets me excited about the LA scene is the new locations that parties are held at. It can be so fun driving to a part of LA that I have never been before. Making blind turns because mapquest says so, and to find the loacation of the hidden party. Wondering the whole time what the scene is going to be like inside. Then getting inside of some warehouse/loft and to find the place going nuts. Your fav local DJ shredding the place, on a stacked sytem. That kinda stuff gets me excited.

Checking JS for a new weekly to pop up. Then finding a new one with a s**t ton of DJs that I want to check out, and to find out the location is sick, and the system being used is top notch. Not to mention when Bassrush brings in some fresh talent.

I'm still thankfull I live in LA where a scene of electronic music is vibrant, perhaps the UK peoples are taking their scene for granted, and don't get as excited as we do when the stars align and a smoker of a party happens.

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awww
Chris...

Say it?

I am interested in your opinion

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having experienced both first hand... i would have to argue this. don't get me wrong, i love la... and am def grateful for our talent... but nothing beats the uk scene.

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DIGITAL WARFARE IS WHERE IZ @ IN L.A ....
BOOM!!!!

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i cant really compare or contrast cause ive never been to london, but its like the drum and bass mecca ffs, im not sure about the crowd but i mean come'on what other place can you have talent like this in one night...this is london on NYE

UNITY
BRYAN GEE (MIDNIGHT SET)
DJ PHANTASY
RUFFSTUFF
DJ SS
TAXMAN
NICKY BLACKMARKET
BENNY PAGE
DEVIOUS D (CLASSIC JUNGLE SET)
MAJISTRATE

SHABBA D
FUNSTA MC
IC3
$PYDA
RAGGA TWINS
RHYMES
HARRY SHOTTA
MC CD
BLACKA

plus

One Nation vs Random Concept

DJ Hype - Midnight Set
Friction
Bryan Gee B2B DJ Andy
Mampi Swift
Hazard
Distorted Minds
Brooks Brothers
Nicky Blackmarket
Xample
Red One
Garry K B2B RV


and then

MOONDANCE NYE

Son of Dance in association with DEF:INITION Upfront D&B

Friction
Hazard
Randall
Simon Bassline Smith
Cyantific
Phantasy
Spice
EZM
Friller +FT
Inter + Mc Beefa

MCs: Eksman :: Fun :: CD :: Youngman :: Herbzie :: Rhymes

Essence of Chi in association with Nine Bar Sound System Soulful D&B

Storm (MIDNIGHT SET)
Commix TBC
Artificial Intelligence
Kane (Hardware Classics Set 95-99)
Subterra
Healing Crew
Smitty +Spindall
Sophina & Ascension

Rave Utopia Classic Jungle

Kenny Ken
Nicky Blackmarket
Food Junkie
Devious Dee
SLB
Trix
Logic & Skanna
Ash A Tac
Gachet

and then...

Wax:On & Metropolis NYE



METROPOLIS ARENA

Marky
Hype
Shy FX
Alix Perez
Steppa
Prophecy

MCS: Stamina MC :: SP:MC :: Tonn Piper :: JC :: Skeez


DUBSTEP ARENA

Mary Anne Hobbs
Caspa
Hatcha
Youngsta
The Steppahs

and then

FANTAZIA

Main Arena - Fantazia

Ratpack - Midnight Set
Shades Of Rhythm Live P.A & Dj set
Altern 8 Live
Mickey Finn
Top Buzz
Slipmatt
Ellis Dee
Ratty & Tango
Phantasy
Krome & Time
Glen Aston

MCs: Robbie Dee :: Ranski :: Scratchmaster Techno :: Charlie B :: NRG

Drum & Bass - Muzik Hertz

Fabio & Grooverider - Midnight set
Mickey Finn
Ray Keith
Dj SS & Mc Warren G
Benny Page
Crissy Cris
Sly & Ckb & General C
Escape
Tek prime
Rapid & Noize

MCs: Shabba :: Foxy :: Nutcracka :: Loki :: Accapello :: G1 :: Hidro

and then another party

High Contrast (NYE Exclusive! Midnight set)
Scratch Perverts
DJ Marky
Kissy Sell out
Friction
Shy FX
Rusko
Goldie
Logistics
Tomb Crew
Cyantific
Joker
Nu Tone
Andy George
Transit Mafia
Jaymo
Food Soundsystem
Dollop DJ’s

MCs Stamina :: SP :: Wrec :: Rage :: I.D :: Ruthless

oh yah and another party

ONE NATION NYE

Friction - Midnight Set
DJ Hype
Mampi Swift
Dillinja
Fresh
Brockie
Nicky Blackmarket
Clipz
Ruff Ride B2B Klip B2B Network

Eksman :: Fearless :: IC3 :: Det :: Harry Shotta :: GQ :: Evil B :: Bensta


the list goes on and on. And im sure every party will be jam packed and bangin. Sure we have together as one with international talent but this far exceeds that lol.. LA has an amazing scene for international talent and loads of local talent but IMO nothing can really compare to Londons talent. I dont mean that as an insult cause I love our scene but no city in the world has a dnb scene as quite developed as the place it originated from


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JonL: for me, a party is defined more by the crowd than the line-up. LA crowds currently have five times the energy with five times less the aggro, flailing vibes. More women, more dancers, less wastoids.

Can't fade the line-ups in London, for sure, nor the size of the venues. But after a decadeof travelling to and from London to party to DnB, I think I'm over it. The scene there isn't what it used to be, and it just isn't as much fun as coming to LA . . .

And those who say they can't be compared, you have a lack of imagination!

[ thecolonel - 12 Dec 2008 11:59 ]

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I LOVE LA
Fuck what ever any one who has been to london once or twice has to say......

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lol

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Wednesday I am going to the Swerve xmas party, Ltj Bukem, Fabio, Grooverider, and Bailey.


Friday is a bunch of cuts, Commix, Marcus Intalex, Dbridge, SPY and Instramental for FREE!


LA is warmer.

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Friction playing 4 GIGS IN 1 NIGHT!!!!!!! WOW LOL

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Friction is the man playing 4 shows. Way to stack those pounds. That news years list is crazy. We have never even gone close to having that. Not even half.

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Ive never been to london so i cant say which city has more energy, but i think theres a reason LA might feel more "exciting" to anyone who comes and parties here. I think the LA scene has been around long enough and is sized just perfect so that anyone knows pretty much everyone, so everytime you go out you see a lot of familiar faces. I personally see a lot of my junglist family (yes cuz consider a lot of you like my family) at every event i go to, Funktion, RESPECT, Upgrade, Native, i love LA, Timeless to name a few. I think the reason LA feels more electric is precisely that, the fact that no matter where you go you see these familiar faces. When i compare it to the UK scene theres just so many parties and so many things going on i an imagine its hard to achieve that same level of comfort and closeness. I know id personally vibe way more of the people i know and love/care for/respect, LA is amazing city to live in and i think we are truly blessed to have such a sick junglist community, theres some truly amazing people in this city....

my 2 cents