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mikeyj.suck

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 30 Jul 2002 09:54   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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John Stossels take: "The War on Drugs" airing tonight

An EXERPT from WAR ON DRUGS -- A WAR ON OURSELVES
with John Stossel -- to be aired TONIGHT at 9pmCST on ABC.begin:
ABC News Special "War On Drugs, a War On Ourselves"
with John Stossel" on tomorrow night, Tuesday, July
30, 10 P.M EST. -- Note from ABC's John Stossel about
his drug policy news special, airing Tuesday night
(30 July) at 10 p.m. EST: ABC has given me a full hour
Tuesday night at 10 p.m. ET for a show on the drug war.
I use the time to raise the question: Does the "War on
Drugs" do more harm than the drugs?I think it does.
We know the terrible things drug abuse does, but we
rarely consider the terrible things drug prohibition does.
The government declaring drugs illegal doesn't mean
people can't get them. (We cannot even keep the drugs
out of prisons -- how could we keep them out of America?)
It only means people get drugs on the black market, where
they pay more for them.
This creates the nasty, unintended consequences of the drug war:
It sucks children into the underworld
Why should a kid from a poor neighborhood work at McDonald's,
when he can make 10 times the money selling drugs? Those who
resist the temptation are heroic. The neighborhood role models,
the people with the best cars and the best clothing, are drug
dealers. Who commands respect in the neighborhood? Criminals!
Had I grown up there, I bet I would have succumbed. We interview the kids.
It corrupts copsHow many cops turn down a bribe that would double their pay?
We'll show video of a police officer taking the money.
It corrupts entire countries
We go to Colombia, which now produces most of America's heroin
and cocaine. I don't recommend vacationing there. Colombia is
now the world leader in kidnappings. Murder is common. There
have already been 15 attempts on the life of Colombia's next
president; he's decided to stay in Europe until his inauguration
next month. Drug money trumps law.It creates crime
Films like "Reefer Madness" (we'll show you a clip) suggested
people take drugs and go crazy. In reality, people rarely get
violent because they're high on drugs.
Most drugs users get high privately, live a reasonably normal
life, and eventually quit. The violence we associate with drugs
happens because warring dealers arm themselves to protect their
turf, and because addicts steal to pay the high prices for drugs.
Nicotine is about as addictive as cocaine or heroin, but few people
rob 7-11s to get Marlboros or Budweiser. Drugs hurt people, but it's
the law that causes most of the crime. Alcohol prohibition gave rise
to criminals like Al Capone; drug prohibition is making criminals even
richer. The State Department says that's how Osama bin Laden got some
of his money.So what should be done?
I talk to a Bronx priest who argues that life would
be better if drugs were legal. "Legal means control,"
says Father Joseph Kane. "Illegal means the bad guys have control."
California Judge James Gray agrees. "Hold people
accountable for what they do, not for what they put into their bodies," he says.
The head of the DEA, Asa Hutchinson, calls these
arguments "giving in." I go to Europe to look at
the "Dutch experiment" which separated "hard" and
"soft" drugs by legalizing the sale of marijuana
in licensed "coffee shops." The menus offer marijuana
joints, baggies, teas and chocolates.
Despite legalization, fewer Dutch teens use marijuana
than American teens. Today police in most of Europe
ignore marijuana use. In Spain, Italy and Luxembourg,
they've decriminalized most drug use, and in Portugal
recently, all drug use. Switzerland and a few other
countries now prescribe heroin to some addicts. I visit
a Rotterdam priest who allows addicts to smoke and inject
heroin in "user rooms" in the church basement. Rotterdam's
local police superintendent says the problem is "bigger"
when the police interfere.LEGAL drugs sounds frightening --
but the DRUG WAR is frightening too
Legal drugs might lead more Americans to experiment,
but would it create a health crisis? I suspect use
would go up, and then down, as it did with crack.
People aren't endlessly foolish. In any case, don't
we own our own bodies? Whose decision is it to control
what we put in our own bodies? Ours? Or the state's?-end

ganjaripper

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 30 Jul 2002 10:16   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: John Stossels take:

our government is inherently lazy and reactionary. everything stossel says is completely on point. the officials who make policy simply work within their alloted budgets to instantly gratify the public by running paranoia inducing propaganda ad campaigns which also use fear as a control mechanism as they always have and always will. hell they might as well start using dark drum and bass in their ads i think it will go quite well with the tone of the message. intelligence is badly needed in the office of national drug control policy and in the white house. it has always been funny to me how these conservative white haired men can make these rules about a topic they dont know a goddamn thing about. i almost feel as if its better to keep drugs illegal so the babylonian establishment doesnt directly benefit financially from the sale of every gram of marijauna or cocaine sold. but in reality drugs being legal makes a lot more sense intellectually and realistically. im with stossel on this topic all the way.

zona

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 30 Jul 2002 10:16   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: John Stossels take:

"In any case, don't
we own our own bodies? Whose decision is it to control
what we put in our own bodies? Ours? Or the state's?"

I found this to be very interesting. Some very good points were made.

mikeyj.suck

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 30 Jul 2002 10:18   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: John Stossels take:

i cant wait to hear the retorts. this airs tonight, and i am DEFINITELY going to be watching.

mr_omega

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 30 Jul 2002 10:26   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: John Stossels take:

drugs are the ultimate political /marketing scam. its a win win situtation for the powers that be. demonize drugs to increase interest in them [increase demand] and maximize your profit margin because they are scarce as a result of your campaign to stop them [decrease supply]. its the greatest marketing model ever developed. the war on drugs aint goin no where, not out of leadership's concern for our health and welfare but, 'cause its a loose cover for a multi-billion dollar industry..

j.e.

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 30 Jul 2002 10:40   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: John Stossels take:

cool. imma try to watch. it's good that this viewpoint is making it's way to the general public. people must know

blaci2002

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 30 Jul 2002 10:43   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: John Stossels take:

*tunes in*

sweetpea

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 30 Jul 2002 11:02   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: John Stossels take:

I will tune in for this...

zona

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 30 Jul 2002 22:20   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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WATCH CHANNEL 7 RIGHT NOW

This s**t is interesting...

tryst

  yardie mon
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 30 Jul 2002 22:40   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: WATCH CHANNEL 7 RIGHT NOW

I love the pro drug preist

[ edited by tryst - 30 Jul 2002 22:40 ]

infamousme

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 30 Jul 2002 23:10   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: WATCH CHANNEL 7 RIGHT NOW

john stossel is my new hero

onlydalonely

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 30 Jul 2002 23:56   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: WATCH CHANNEL 7 RIGHT NOW

i am absolutely exstatic that this is making it to primetime tv...its existence goes against much of what i would expect from many of these media conglomerates. i didnt even get to watch it, but knowing it got aired makes me feel good.

-Only

neonrain

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 31 Jul 2002 19:59   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: WATCH CHANNEL 7 RIGHT NOW

I really wish I got to see that specia.
Sounds like a very informative and enlightening experience for the non-user who discriminates against the user.

 

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