jungleselekta internet junkie
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29 Aug 2003 18:01 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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dnb evolved from happy hardcore
is that not true!?
*listening to happyhardcore
plato- "when the music of a society changes, the whole society will change."
aristotle (student of plato)- "when music changes, their should be laws to govern the nature and character of that music."
lennon- "the best and the quikest way to undermind any society is through its music."
dj rush- "do you like muthafukn bass in your muthafukn face?" |
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29 Aug 2003 18:04 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
ummm....happy harcore? or breakbeat hardcore...
I want some of what you are on...
please?
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According to jungleselekta ...
is that not true!?
*listening to happyhardcore
plato- "when the music of a society changes, the whole society will change."
aristotle (student of plato)- "when music changes, their should be laws to govern the nature and character of that music."
lennon- "the best and the quikest way to undermind any society is through its music."
dj rush- "do you like muthafukn bass in your muthafukn face?"
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29 Aug 2003 18:05 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
hapy hardcore as you know it today .. no, dnb did NOT evolve from that ...
but, if you listen to what dnb came from, people who don't know the difference could call it happyhardcore.
Good example's of what is NOT happy hardcore, but what DNB came from are acen's "trip to the moon" and johnny L's "hurt you so". |
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29 Aug 2003 18:08 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
I guess if you were deaf you might think that breakbeat techno and happy hardcore were the same..
just close your eyes....mmm I wanna here that
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According to kingpin ...
hapy hardcore as you know it today .. no, dnb did NOT evolve from that ...
but, if you listen to what dnb came from, people who don't know the difference could call it happyhardcore.
Good example's of what is NOT happy hardcore, but what DNB came from are acen's "trip to the moon" and johnny L's "hurt you so".
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jungleselekta internet junkie
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29 Aug 2003 18:11 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
hahahaha |
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29 Aug 2003 18:30 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
no happy hardcore is not the roots of jungle....
UK hardcore or protojungle are the roots of both styles... but from the begining some artist made more dark and serious tunes and some made fruity protohappycore tunes... yes the artist that later are credited for both played at the same shows but as the styles evolved they rapidly grew apart...
same is true in la history,
I still have fliers for partues were ron d core, doc martin, dj dan, raw , and steve loria all played in the same room... |
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29 Aug 2003 18:35 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
put your hands up and step away from the crack pipe! |
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29 Aug 2003 19:55 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
jungle/dnb and happycore [even tho they are so dissimilar now] evolved separately from a common point [musical ancestor?] back in like 1992..
it was very common to go to a rave and hear housey/pianoey influence breakbeat hardcore running at say 145 bpm.. with pitched up hip hop samples and ragga basslines etc.. a lot of people overlook this era because everything evolved so fast.. but deejays and producers went their own way and took the sounds with them..
if you look at the tempos of both dnb and happycore.. you will see that they've remained very similar over time.. from say 150 - 155 in 1993 to 175 - 180 in 2003.. speeding up as the years went by
i've got old "hardcore" tapes with tunes from dj trace and dj brisk.. things have changed since 1995 hehe
blah blah.. sorry hehe.. i can talk about music for dayz..
basically.. happycore and jungle evolved together.. but on seperate sides of the spectrum..
big up the techno sound!
-magnafide |
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29 Aug 2003 22:15 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
god hates you. |
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30 Aug 2003 01:51 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
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ha I have to agree.
I listened to some old school deadly budda mix and that s**t has some break core that drum n bass is finally touching on,this mix was like 8 years too. |
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30 Aug 2003 03:04 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
fukem recordings 001 deadly buddha
met him online in 97. after asking if he's heard of 'fukem' and where I can find more from that gabber label, he sends me the first one in the mail with his name and tracks on it. big up selecta! haha have his mix too, 31 tracks in an hour. I used to talk to dj cloudskipper online a lot back in the day as well. got his minimal techno mix before I knew what minimal techno was! damn, that reminds me, I think I sold my picture disc atomic recordings 001. it had a korn hardcore remix. |
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30 Aug 2003 04:25 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
word up chris...
to add...
basically what happycore and drum and bass split off from was that old rave hardcore s**t... which was in some ways a conglomerate of the two in their very early stages... a lot of cheesy piano s**t, and 4-on-the-floor kick drums but with breakbeats layered over them and whatnot...
it split... some were more into the 4-on-the-floor and cheesy pianos, and others were more into breakbeat-oriented s**t...
the breakbeat offshoot became jungle.
i remember seeing something in i think it was "modulations" (could be wrong) where dj rap was talking about this... pretty interesting stuff... 
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According to 4th_level ...
jungle/dnb and happycore [even tho they are so dissimilar now] evolved separately from a common point [musical ancestor?] back in like 1992..
it was very common to go to a rave and hear housey/pianoey influence breakbeat hardcore running at say 145 bpm.. with pitched up hip hop samples and ragga basslines etc.. a lot of people overlook this era because everything evolved so fast.. but deejays and producers went their own way and took the sounds with them..
if you look at the tempos of both dnb and happycore.. you will see that they've remained very similar over time.. from say 150 - 155 in 1993 to 175 - 180 in 2003.. speeding up as the years went by
i've got old "hardcore" tapes with tunes from dj trace and dj brisk.. things have changed since 1995 hehe
blah blah.. sorry hehe.. i can talk about music for dayz..
basically.. happycore and jungle evolved together.. but on seperate sides of the spectrum..
big up the techno sound!
-magnafide
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30 Aug 2003 10:58 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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yea like duh! I bought an old dj trace tune thinking it would be jungle but it was old happycore...
needless to say I was disapointed...
Its all about 2 bad mice and ratpack!!! |
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30 Aug 2003 14:29 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
WHY WOULD YOU EVEN WANNA QUESTION THAT... |
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30 Aug 2003 14:38 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re:happycore STILL SUCKS!!!
I remember all these kids used to rock "f**k happy hardcore" t-shirts back in the days! |
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30 Aug 2003 15:12 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: Re:happycore STILL SUCKS!!!
say it ain't so .. |
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30 Aug 2003 15:39 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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dnb evolved from happy hardcore
*bumping it rite now*
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man, this s**t fkn killed it ppl...ACEN razvi and f. DYCE were some pretty fkn ill producers on the real...i still got much love and respect for all the o.g's doing their thing back in the early 90's..."we are where we are today b/c of those that paved the way" -yours truly
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30 Aug 2003 15:47 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
Google strikes again |
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1 Sep 2003 23:09 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
Too tempting not to reply to this...
NO! it didn't evolve that way... it evolved from very high English kids playing American Chicago "house" -which kinda sounded like cut up hip-hop breakbeat tracks at the time- (early 90's) playing records at 45rpm instead of 33rpm like it sez on the dang label!...and dancing... did I mention they were high? On E?...
Happy Hardcore came from kids being VERY high on E.... and dancing... very fast. And laughing... I don't know why they were laughing. Maybe they had gas (laughing). Maybe they didn't take their music super serious and wanted a laugh...
ON THE OTHER HAND - Clown step: is from punk_az bitch_az special_ed m_fkers who can't hear me tho'.... werd |
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1 Sep 2003 23:54 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
techno
breakbeat techno
breakbeat 'ardkore
proto jungle
jungle.
techno
breakbeat techno
breakbeat 'ardkore
hardcore
pretty much like that. but there is a lot of blurring of those lines. and it didn't always follow that order, went back and forth a bit.
but jungle and hardcore both evolved from techno as it got sped up and breakbeats were layered on top of the 4/4 beat. |
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2 Sep 2003 00:56 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
where does google play a factor in this?
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Google strikes again
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2 Sep 2003 00:58 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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trance never evolved
and thats that. |
playboygerrrl internet junkie
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2 Sep 2003 01:24 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
back to the topic D... |
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2 Sep 2003 01:28 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
i think he was trying to say you been doing some research..  |
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2 Sep 2003 01:34 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
hahahaha.....meaning he thinks i researched that s**t on google?
[ playboygerrrl - 2 Sep 2003 01:42 ] |
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2 Sep 2003 01:36 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
duh duh duh! another thread bites the dust |
jungleselekta internet junkie
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2 Sep 2003 07:51 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
listen to sl2 'on a ragga tip' from 1992, and then tell me whats up. another good example is dj ss 'breakbeat pressure' also from 1992. essentially drumhappy and basscore evolved from acid house. true? |
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2 Sep 2003 08:10 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
NO your all wrong!!!!
God created D&B in his own image. |
jungleselekta internet junkie
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2 Sep 2003 08:23 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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2 Sep 2003 10:19 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
All I gotta say is Breakbeat Hardcore Techno.
Happy Hardcore, hahaha.
All the soft go home hardcore to the bone! |
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2 Sep 2003 10:39 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
Although we all know this is not true, I can see where the assumption can manifest. I admit it, I like happycore, and I know that many happycore producers like jungle, so much that they almost always used to throw in an old school jungle breakdown in the middle of their tunes to create some "funky" bizness. Kinda lame I know, but so are candy ravers, like we all used to be. Also, those guys love to throw in breaks in the background to fill in the empty spaces left by the sucky four on the floor construct. I've actually found my cleanest amen samples by sampling from happycore mp3's. |
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2 Sep 2003 21:23 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
now that you guys mention drugs...last time mampi swift was in town he and I were talking about the beginings of the dnb scene and how it was a trip that it was a CRACK scene... yes ROCK COCAINE was
the og jungle drug... so don't go bashin' on E -tards cuz at least they wern't smoking that crack...
now your history, suckers... |
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2 Sep 2003 22:43 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
D&B evolved from death metal, old Tom Jones bootlegs, and 'ardcore...
:b
" 'ardcore! you know the score! " |
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5 Sep 2003 19:31 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
2 words
FOUR BEAT |
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6 Sep 2003 01:14 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
f**k it, its all 180 bpm beepy music.
the only difference between dnb and happyhardcore is that that jungle piano stabs went out of style in '93. |
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6 Sep 2003 10:35 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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Re: dnb evolved from happy hardcore
no, sped up (squirel)vocals went out of style...
piano stabs are still dope.. e.i. killa, the lizard,etc... |
