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Jungle Family Tree

HAHAHA this thing is funny! it shows where all 14 of the current types of jungle came from and what they're about

http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html

(if you click on the genre it gives you samples and a description)

where the hell is clownstep?!

[ unifire - 3 Nov 2003 19:34 ]
[ unifire - 3 Nov 2003 19:32 ]

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This thing rules! I like that disco house stuff hehe : -D

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i love RAGGA

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According to pipaz ...

i love RAGGA
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no way... r u serious?

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yeah well just goes to show there's a difference between jungle.. and drum and bass aka jungle "lite" bwahahaha :-) True.. a lot of jumpup songs sound the same tho lol oh well im waiting for old school techno to come back.. ;-D

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yeah well just goes to show there's a difference between jungle.. and drum and bass aka jungle "lite" bwahahaha :-) True.. a lot of jumpup songs sound the same tho lol oh well im waiting for old school techno to come back.. ;-D

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Hey guys go to that link

Click on Jungle
Click on Jazzstep
Click on Sample 2

EZ Rollers - Tough At The Top is a pretty cool song, I think my brother might have played it because it sounds familiar

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Yeah EZ Rolles "Tough on The Top" Oh how I have went through my stages of non stop listening to this track. I love that song!

[ misundastood - 3 Nov 2003 23:53 ]

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that song is actually really popular michael... i think most people already heard that one but if not check it oot!

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I wanna put the lyrics as my aim away message(dragonblades2000)

.....

Tough at the top
Tough at the bottom
Hard to survive
In a world of destruction
Tough when you're young
Beating a system for justice
Open your eyes
It's pure devastation it is this

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Damn that is a funny link. I like their definition for Jump Up! haha!

its all kind true! :P

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what no way! that definition SUCKS

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I listened to all sampples in the whole thing and read the stuff, i know more info on the dance music in general, even though i hear this whole thingy isn't 100% accurate. What genres do you guys like from the thing?

I like house and trance best. I don't like most techno and hardcore. I don't like most breakbeat except for the hip hop stuff. The jungle genre has a lot of good stuff and I also like some ambient stuff. What genres are best in the jungle thing?

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damn this s**t is tight

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this is a fuking debate killer right here...im fuking saving this for my arsenal for next time some asshole tells me dnb came from f**king disco or some stupid s**t..hahah...right on man thanks for this post...very entertaining

respect

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but d'n'b did come from disco! didn't it?

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oh props to dragonsoul for sending me this link by the way...

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i love the way yhis guy labels some stuff as crap etc etc....his descriptions are great...hahah

good way for people to hear all the types of music without having hassle. much props...

does akiko spin downtempo in la anymore?

i think that was her name

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This is great...........but where did Ragga come from? hahaha

on another note.......if u guys wanna hear a total crap song(actually i wouldn't call it a song)....

go to hardcore
go to speedcore
click on sample 5
ricardo - only dj noisekick will survive

how can anybody listen to speedcore? that doesn't qualify as music i think. I can recommend two great samples from this site....

for the first one go to downtempo, ambient techno, sample 4, orbital - halycon+on+on, it's a great song I heard from the movie Mortal Kombat.

for the 2nd one go to downtempo, downbeat, sample 3, sneaker pimps - six underground, it's a great song i heard from the movie Cruel Intentions

I also recommend solar stone - seven cities, it's under trance in the ibiza section

what are some of your fav songs from this site?

[ dragonsoul - 4 Nov 2003 02:24 ]

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This guy has been doing this for a long time...I remember reading his stuff back in like '98 or '99...funny stuff, yet useful too for the label-happy like myself.

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I'm starting to like some of the jungle stuff even more. My brother Robert.......if you go to jungle and click on any sub genre EXCEPT for breakcore and stuff decended from that, that is what he listened to all the time, cool stuff!

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im glad its actually printed out (in a graph for all the "random" dips**ts on here) the difference from dnb and jungle cause there seems to be alot of people who think its the same s**t...


[ applejacksoff - 4 Nov 2003 12:53 ]
[ applejacksoff - 4 Nov 2003 12:50 ]

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all tho i dont agree with some of the tracks being put into the catogeorys that they did with the hard step tech step hard step... other than that, that gragh is straight

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very cool!

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Damn I used to have a really nice imported Tech Step/Jazz Jungle double-mix-CD from a couple years ago that got fricken jacked from my car while it was parked in front of the Van Nuys police station...

Yeah, I dunno what that has to with this but it pisses me off.

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WHOA!!!

Click on Jungle
Click on Jazzstep
Click on #6
Hatiras - Space Invaders(J Majik Mix)

That song rules!!! I want the full version! What do you think of it?

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Hey what subgenre would you put this song into?

Kosheen - Hide U???

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spaced invaders is so bad asss.......the third time someone spun at last year's monster massive

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none better.........really........serious.....i mean it.......i'm not f**kin around

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These jungle songs rule, but I also like some trance....especially Ibiza Trance Sample #3....Solar Stone - Seven Cities, u?

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I actually like Speedcore...I still rock out to my DJ Tron mixtape from 1997...

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no s**t, i guess you do learn something new everyday, i thought breakcore would be under hardcore.... kick ass

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Cinemafia what do you think of noisecore?

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Noisecore is pretty cool too, it's actually a little more complex I think than Speedcore so yeah...I like it.

I'm also curious as to why he hasn't added Lowercase Sound on there yet under Downtempo...

http://www.lowercasesound.com

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this site f**king rules ... sounds like me running thru my record collection!

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I wanna bump this up. I just downloaded the song

Hatiras - Spaced Invader(J Majik Mix)

I discovered it and "EZ Rollers - Tough At The Top" through that site, they rule!

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oh here it is

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yeah, there it is.

still absoulutely worthless and innacurate.

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chill out f**k not everybody is an expert of dnb. there's a lot to learn there, u got a better educational link post it or stfu

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this site will only miseducate - as everything on there came directly out of that guys ass.

how about you hold off on the "chill the f**k out" or the "stfu" - i didn't mean to burst your bubble.

its even worse if your not an expert, because then you might actually believe some of that crap.

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:wink:

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sorry, i'm just a big fan of jungle-lite. haha. ;O

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there is a disclaimer where he says its 'non-technical' meant to entertain. i don't think he's claiming anything to be 100% fact.

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whats jungle-lite?

Don't be fooled...

It's all the same thing (jungle vs. drum & bass vs. jump up vs. hardstep vs. hip-hop vs. ragga vs. funk vs. soul vs. jazz vs. etc. etc.)

Someone asked did jungle evolve from hip-hop? (which is the basic principle of question even tho you could break it down to did drum & bass evolve from jungle or did hardstep evolve from jump up, etc.)

The answer to this question is actually based on your musical perspective. There really is no "right" answer. Even if there was a "right" answer, who would be the judge to make the final call between both opinions (which is either a yes or no answer)???

I have been in many debates about this and even went further to debate: NOT that jungle evolved from hip-hop or any other form of music but that they are actually all the same thing and that the seperation of music style and scene is the real illusion. Again, you may think not but it still comes down to your opinion or perspective on this subject. The way i look at it is: Music is Music. You can break each different sound of music into a more complex category but in the end: it's all the same thing. You can even break it down even further and categorize each piece of music as "good or bad" but then again, who is the judge to determine? Once you're able to appreciate all forms of music as an equal: then you will be free from it's limited boundaries.

PEACE,
HS

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger & more complex. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." - Albert Einstien

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"jungle-lite" is how he refers to drum&bass

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According to unifire ...

there is a disclaimer where he says its 'non-technical' meant to entertain. i don't think he's claiming anything to be 100% fact.
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and yes, it is entertaining - but none of it is very accurate... I don't think the word "fact" should be used in any context with this site.

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for a reference as far as sub-genre titles it's ok, but the placement of tracks is somewhat debatable.

the "hardcore" section is fairly inaccurate, but you look at any comprehensive electronic music site and they botch the hardcore info, because most people aren't hardcore fans.

as far as breakcore coming from jungle or hardcore, kinda hard to say, as it was more or less formed when hardcore producers (alec empire, ec8or from DHR, christoph fringeli from praxis, miro from white breaks, nasenbluten on bloody fist, etc., did you guys know panacea started as a hardcore producer, too?) started doing their versions of breakbeat tracks.

[ deathbrigade - 7 Feb 2006 12:27 ]

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The disclaimer says it all folks...

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"Its purpose is to entertain before it informs. I suppose it could be used as a credited resource or educational primer, but that's not recommended since I made most of it up."