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SAN DIEGO DEAD BEATS

SORRY FOLKS...GOTTA COMPLAIN ABOUT WHERE I LIVE.
IT SUCKS THAT LITTLE CARES OR KNOWS ABOUT THE DUBSTEP SITUATION HERE...PEOPLE JUS WANNA DO THERE OWN TING AND MAYBE BRROCK THEMSELVES INNA WAREHOUSE WITH NO INVITATION OR CONNECTION.
MAYBE I SUCK AT PROMOTING THIS FOOKING MUSIC.
I'M JUST NOT A SCENE BWOY...MAN JUST WANNA PUSH SOME JOY AND PAIN THROUGH MY SPEAKERS WITHOUT ANY COMPLAINTS OR STRIFE.
L.A.'S GOT SOUNDCLASHES WITH ALL THE HOMIES...WHO THE HELL DO I HAVE TO TALK TO TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT HERE???
LAWGE UP Q.45 FOR BEING THE ONLY ONE TO REACH OUT!
S.D. DUBSTEP IS LOOKING LAME RIGHT NOW....I 'M LOOKING LAME RIGHT NOW....

GOOGLE: SAN DIEGO DUBSTEP

YOU'LL SEE THAT MISK IS THE ONLY NAME TO POP UP!
BIG UP MISK!

THE ONLY SOUNDCLASH THAT GOES ON..IS WHEN MY NEIGHBOR GETS RED AND WHATS TO CLASH ME TO DEATH FOR PUMPING CEMENT THROUGH MY SPEAKERS!
BASS AND LOVE DUTTY BATCHES.

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THIS COMPLAINT IS IN NO PART TO START BEEFS WITH ANY ONE!
IT'S JUST HARD TO FIND A HOME SO THAT SOME OF YOU WANNABLOKES CAN PLAY DOWN HERE.
JAH LIVE!

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I hear and feel you pain... but

comparing SD and LA is like comparing watermelons to cherries....

LA is Huge, almost 3 times the amount of people... 9,948,081 people vs SD (3.15 million)

not to mention... Dubstep is such a niche market, ESPECIALLY in San Diego

if DNB weeklies struggle in SD it's even harder for dubstep...

there's stuff that goes off @ Kava Lounge though...



good luck


[ probable_cause - 12 Jul 2008 11:33 ]
[ probable_cause - 12 Jul 2008 11:26 ]

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hold tight the SD crew, yall are always welcome until it gets poppin down souf

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maybe a PURE FILTH SD session is needed....

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YUNNO WHAT IT IS...SAN DIEGO IS MAINLY ROOTS AND A LOT OF THEM FOLLOW THE T.O.K(TRIBE OF KINGS)AS FAR AS SOUNDS GO.
SO WHEN YOU GOT A BIG SOUND AND ABOUT 10 MEMBERS TO FILL UP VENUES, DEAR GOD IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
YEAH THERE'S A TON OF DIRTY BARS AND SUCH BUT I AINT TRYING TO PLAY TO A BUNCH OF
NEIGHBORHOOD DRUNKS.
I'M TRYING TO ADD MY LIKKKLE FLAVOR TO THE PUNCH.NAHMEAN.
I'M TIRED OF DANCEHALL.
NUFF EARLY 80'S ROOTS.
WHO LISTENS TO DNB ANYMORE OR JUNGLE...EXCEPT FOR MY PURISTS.
STEPPERS WAS A THING OF THE PAST.
I THINK HOUSE AND TECHNO STILL GETS PLAY IN S.D....SHAME.
I WANT N-TYPE,ANTI-
SOCIAL,PLASTIK IAN AND NOMAD,CHEF,SGT.POAX,CRAZZLE DEE,MAYBE THAT ONE GUY...BENGA...GOSH L.A. JUST SAW KODE FUCIN 9.
I RAM DANCE WITH THESE GUYS ALL DAY IN MY HEAD.NO USE IN SKANKING AND SWAYING IN MY ROOM BY MYSELF...IT'S JUST SILLY.
SOOON COME!
NOT A PURE FILTH BUT A PURE BOOM!!!
ROCK AN COM INNA.

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Nail on the head.

Give me something worth coming out for in San Diego and I'll come.


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According to probable_cause ...

if DNB weeklies struggle in SD it's even harder for dubstep...
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there is a dubstep weekly at kava lounge! go check it out - best way to meet people is to leave the house

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I hear and feel you pain... but
comparing SD and LA is like comparing watermelons to cherries....
LA is Huge, almost 3 times the amount of people... 9,948,081 people vs SD (3.15 million)
not to mention... Dubstep is such a niche market, ESPECIALLY in San Diego
if DNB weeklies struggle in SD it's even harder for dubstep...
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you know what, 3.15 million people is a LOT

look at San Francisco, less than a million and they're pullin some big shows. granted they didn't do it in a day. its taken time.

Or look at these even smaller cities... Jacksonville Florida, Wilkes Barre Pennsylvania, Indianapolis Indiana, Kelowna British Columbia, Kansas City Missouri, Cincinatti Ohio, Providence Rhode Island.... they have little dubstep scenes going on and are growing. Comparatively, San Diego is much much bigger, its a matter of the effort you put in and building it up - you just gotta start somewhere.

If the dnb scene in SD is struggling, then you need to step outside of that scene and promote to different people.

Start small - the first Smog shows were free parties with locals. just gotta build it up. There are people in SD who like the music, just a matter of linkin em up!

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welcome to the underground...

there are plenty of dubstep events or events featuring dubstep, you're just not looking in the right place homie...

That warehouse thing was VERY poorly promoted i will say, but from what I gather was very well attended.

there is a weekly EVERY WEDNESDAY at Kava Lounge that has a good crowd regularly, and is FREE

Also, many DnB events have dubstep guest djs quite often...I played dubstep at DEEP on a few occasions, and have played dubstep at the weekly wednesday Knight Vision at Kadan before a few times.

Did you attend the recent w00t day party at J street marina? There was dubstep there.
On the day party tip, Sunday June 27th, there is a day party at the Airport Lounge in Litlle Italy where there a few of us playing dubstep. I think it's 5 bucks, or free if you simply email the promoter

There was a sunday night weekly at Kadan that specialized in broken beat which also regularly featured dubstep as well as DnB.

Going way back, Pat fron nme produstions attempted to do a monthly called DUBSTEP 101 whish was poorly attended, although heavily promoted. Discouraged, he hasn't promoted any further installments.

there are a few BIG events in the works as i type, featuring major impported talent, as well as locals from SD as well as LA.


keep your ear to the ground...there is plenty going on...

pz,
J!

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oh yeah, all the while you are complaining about no events, what are you doing to help throw an event? get something going, i would be down to play

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you can look forward to seeing Jason alongside the likes of M.R.K. 1 and 12th Planet in SD in August

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oh yeah, all the while you are complaining about no events, what are you doing to help throw an event? get something going, i would be down to play
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[ uniteddnb - 13 Jul 2008 19:53 ]

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Alright, perfect example - I'd come out for MRK 1.

I was one of the 20 or so people to attend Dubstep 101. Pat is my roll dog.

[ pumpelmump - 13 Jul 2008 20:16 ]

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I'm no promotor or SCENE bwoy that goes about.I'm a grown ass man..33 to be exact...soo i've done all the hanging out at bars and such of that lifestyle...it's about the MUSIC!
I've hit up spots...no ones heard of DUBSTEP or at that another KILLA SOUND is in town.
I've been trying to home this s**t. Getting a decent spot is tuff.
DUBSTEP SURELY DOESN'T DESERVE A BAR AUDIENCE.
I'm just trying to link with some bredrens and sistrens...I have reached out to my fellow s.d. citizens that play dubstep...there aint many...
THESE ARE "MY" ONLY KNOWN OTHER DUBSTEP INNA S.D....MISK,OSAL8,PMAN,SWEET BEETS,KAVA POSSE,MEZI...OH YEAH PUREBOOM HI-FI SOUNDSYSTEM.I'M ALWAYS DOWN TO COLLAB OR TO DO MY PART...BUT LET'S MAKE IT ALL WORTH IT.
SEE I N I COME FROM THE ROOTS SIDE OF SOUNDSYSTEM CULTURE...SOME COM FROM DNB,JUNGLE,ROCK,TRANCE...I'M TRYING TO KEEP THE "DUB" IN DUBSTEP...WHILE OTHERS GO WAH-WAH BONKERS PON RIDDIM.
LET'S SHARE ASPECTS OF MUSIC.
FORWARD.


CHECK:http://www.myspace.com/pureboomhifi

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So O.C. has a pretty strong dubstep scene. Maybe if you throw some north county shows and promote hard in O.C. they will come.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkFKTQP7Eeo

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^^^^^^^^
totally kidding btw

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austin texas probably has a million people MAYBE and has two dubstep weeklies and monthly one offs

Hatcha and Roguestar were here on Saturday

i mean if you want it to happen in SD you gotta do it and do it right

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You're missing a couple of producers in that list.

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You're missing a couple of producers in that list.
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lol

yer such a good sport

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thanks for the support and tips.
helpful and needed..I will try to make it to KAVA or the airport gig and connect the dots.
BASS AND LOVE.

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DUBSTEP IS STILL NEW TO THE MASSES
IT WILL TAKE A MINUTE

PEACE

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dubstep is bigger than dnb now...

true story
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According to kalidubz ...

DUBSTEP IS STILL NEW TO THE MASSES
IT WILL TAKE A MINUTE

PEACE
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you want to support San Diego Dubstep?

buy these tunes:



San Diego Dubstep artist Tapir debuts on Subtrak Records with the S7 EP. This five track EP brings some of the dirtiest and most technical beats to the genre, sure to ignite bassbins from here to Bristol. Each track is unique, while at the same time pays homage to the distinct style that has been sweeping across the globe with untouchable fury. Rounding out the EP is a pristine dub-techno remix of the title track from Christian Bloch.

Available now on www.beatport.com


A. S7

A beautiful yet twisted collections of sounds and beats designed for dancefloor destruction.

B. DEF BEATS

Tapir slows it down a touch with Def Beats, a dark and plodding tune with deep bass and crisp beats.

C. SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES

Sinister sounds and punishing drums combined with warping basslines makes this track a must-have for DJs representing the darkest of dubstep.

D. EARTH

Definitely a tune for the end of the party, Earth combines clean subs, acid lines and cool atmospheres.

E. CATACOMBS

Catacombs is a brutal assault on eardrums and bassbins alike. Strange descending sounds, evil stabs and tough drums keep the track moving at all times.

F. S7 (CHRISTIAN BLOCH REMIX)

Remixing the title track S7 is acclaimed techno artist Christian Bloch. Focusing on the smooth elements in Tapir's tune, Christian creates a minimal masterpiece.






Also look out for SD DJ / Producer KIAL on TZR Carbon records, and watch for SUB PRESSURE RECORDINGS later this summer with tunes from myself, Kial and Kelly D.


-TAPIR

www.myspace.com/tapirmusic

[ tapir - 18 Jul 2008 12:51 ]

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get ready for some new good s**t dude, MISK and I have an all ages dubstep event in the works... live sets, all vinyl dj's... it's gonna get hectic.

http://www.myspace.com/eshone

http://www.mypsace.com/miskatonik


if you're interested :D

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oh and vigilante:
i will quote you that you said you're down to play one of these days, and the time will come soon, haha

i know you have vinyl!!!! at least if your dubstep crates are 5% of your dnb ones...
:P

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it's nice to see you stirring up the hornet's nest pureboom, and thanks for the kind words. People need people like you from time to time. Christine Vaccine is in SD as well, and quite a producer at that, by the way. Esh and I will have more information on this all ages when we've got it together - best to do it right, or not at all.

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yes sir!
I will be going down to the Airport Lounge for some afternoon delight today.
would be real nice to link up and show face.
san diego needs to home this DUBSTEP...can't wait for more exciting news to muster.
BIG UP U!

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OUT TO THE PEOPLE I MET AT THE AIRPORT LOUNGE GIG...RESPECT.
MISSED IT BY A COUPLE HOURS, BUT HOPEFULLY SOME OF YOU OPENED THE EARLOBES TO THE MIX I WAS PASSIN OUT.
main thing I made an attempt to be friendly and humble in the midst .
BIG UP gyal called DAEMIA!
SWEET CONNECT.
LOVE IS ALL I BRING...TO KEEP YOU ROCKING AN SWING!

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Whatup Pure!
those warehouse parties were wack so dont trip, unless of course turbo glitch breaks and burners with fuzzy hats are your thing.
But you gotta get out more man, your tunes are quality. Can't really lead by yelling from the back.

I dont get the "if dnb suffers, dubstep does as well." dnb is done

Christine, your pretty brazen to say theres nothing in sd worth going to. Ive never seen you out whatsoever.
scenes aren't built over night.

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according to mezi
"dnb is done"


why do you have to claim that dnb is dead just because you like dubstep?? dnb isn't dead. you can have dubstep parties without saying that other genres of music are dead

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I re-read the post you're grouchy about, and I should have worded it differently.

I didn't mean there was nothing worth going to, I meant it takes a lot to get me out of the house. The case was the same in d&b, ask anyone who knows me.

I did go to Dubstep 101 in March of last year, which I recall you opened. If you didn't see me there, that's not my problem.

Honestly with that kind of overreaction though, and some of the attitudes in this thread, I don't want to go out...


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Whatup Pure!
those warehouse parties were wack so dont trip, unless of course turbo glitch breaks and burners with fuzzy hats are your thing.
But you gotta get out more man, your tunes are quality. Can't really lead by yelling from the back.

I dont get the "if dnb suffers, dubstep does as well." dnb is done

Christine, your pretty brazen to say theres nothing in sd worth going to. Ive never seen you out whatsoever.
scenes aren't built over night.
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Pretty much...


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according to mezi
"dnb is done"


why do you have to claim that dnb is dead just because you like dubstep?? dnb isn't dead. you can have dubstep parties without saying that other genres of music are dead
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"Honestly with that kind of overreaction though, and some of the attitudes in this thread, I don't want to go out..."

oh boo =(

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Alright, to put it another way - if you're not packing bodies in the door at your night, you need to give people a reason to care and come. Whether it's the level of talent, the family vibe, et cetera.

Some of the attitudes displayed in this thread and very negative and off-putting, so that's the comfortable vibe out the window right there. And has there been an international headliner in San Diego yet? When I go out in SF and LA comparatively, two successful scenes, both of those elements are there. Something you hear over and over in the review threads for these cities is how friendly and welcoming people are, whereas there's a lot of attacking in this thread.

Make me care about my local scene, please. I'd like to. Gas for roadtrips is expensive.

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YOW!!!
COME ON NOW...LET'S FORWARD MUSIC AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.
I JUST SAW THAT KAVA WAS HAVING VIRUS SYNDICATE,M.R.K 1, AND A COUPLE MORE HEADS.
IT'S HAPPENING...GOTTA WAIT AND SEE IF PEOPLE COME TO THAT...THEN WE CAN SEE WHAT WE ARE UP AGAINST...IF PEOPLE DON'T CARE, FRRROCK DEM.
"DNB" ISN'T THE ONLY GENRE THAT DOES'NT GET PLAY...IT'S HIPPITY HOP,INDIE ROCK,GLITCH,BEATS,REGGAE,DUB......HENCE "DUBSTEP"...IT'S THE MIXTURE OF ALL SOUNDS AND MUSIC..THAT'S WHY WE ARE ALL HERE DEFENDING THE NEXT STEP IN MUSIC.
I CAN SAY THAT I'M A REGGAE HISTORIAN...BUT IT WON'T MATTER BECAUSE I'M INTO DUBSTEP RIGHT NOW...THIS GENRE WILL EVENTUALLY FIZZLE OR MORPH INTO SOMETHING ELSE...IT ALREADY IS.
THE 2006-07 DUBSTEP SOUND IS WAY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS GOIN ON NOW...CHECK THE BASS LINES.
EVERYONE IS GOING OVERBOARD WITH THE WOBBLE...I'M STARTING TO GET OVER IT.
"DUB" WILL ALWAYS MAKE SENSE AND JAH WILL ALWAYS BE A PART OF THE ROOTS ANGLE.IT ALWAYS HAS...TIMELESS MUSIC.
"DUBSTEP"...GOING BEYOND THE FUTURE...WAY AHEAD OF IT'S TIME.
I WOULD HATE TO SEE IT GONE TOMMORROW..IT'S LIKE A WORKED OUT PROSTITUTE AT THIS POINT.
REPRESENT LOVELY!!!!!

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oh and vigilante:
i will quote you that you said you're down to play one of these days, and the time will come soon, haha

i know you have vinyl!!!! at least if your dubstep crates are 5% of your dnb ones...
:P
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note taken

[ vigilante - 7 Aug 2008 11:21 ]

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not worth da time

[ trench - 7 Aug 2008 12:13 ]

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I usually steer clear of posting on threads where people are getting their feelings hurt, but since this one is about the scene here in San Diego, civic pride and a desire to help improve the scene here compel me.

I attended Dubstep 101 last year. I was so pleased to be listening to the music on a sound system larger than my personal stereo or pc speakers. I was even more pleased to be in a roomful of people who were digging the sound.I was fortunate to meet Tim Staypuft, Mezi and Misk.Since then I've made friends with a bunch more people who love dubstep. I've been to LA a bunch of times and met a lot of the crew up there. I met a bunch of the crew from London's React.FM online and even started doing a weekl y show on the station (my show is on hold at the moment but i hope to be back on very soon). I even have a friend in Tokyo who I talk to on msn all the time. All the aforementioned people have been really nice to me and been very welcoming.

I try to help the scene in San Diego by going out whenever I can afford to pay bar prices for drinks. It's fun! Drink, dance, chat don't over think it. Plus I've met a bunch more cool people who DJ and produce.

The other thing is, going out is helpful to the Scene for a couple of reasons.

First off a lot of live music is subsidized by alcohol sales.If you go out and buy a couple of drinks the bar will do better. If the bar does better, the night will keep happening.If the bar does really well dj's and promoters can even get paid.(records and flyers cost money after all).

Secondly, when you go out and drink (drink a diet coke or something if you don't like alcohol)with people you share interests with, some amazing conversations can happen! Knowledge and experience sharing is such an amazing thing, you never know who you are gonna inspire or be inspired by.

One more thing. Not everyone is everyone else's cup of tea, but that shouldn't stop folks from being civil to each other at the very least.

Respect

P

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Oh yeah, I forgot one thing. Invite your friends out too, they don't have to be "part of the scene" most of the people I've turned on to dubstep dig it once they hear it. That will also help the scene in ways that I hope are obvious.

respect

p