forums : Jungle Scene : Dubplates

Dillinja (what happened)

damn, i used to love his productions. the stuff he did under Capone was dope too.... but damn, this tune "s**t bag" or "S bag" is horible! if you haven't heard it, judge for yourself.

http://samples.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/sm?C=CHR033BLK&S=b

Dillinja - don't hate on a champ

SBag roolz just like all the other Dillinja tunes. Go to a show where D&B and dancin' is the move and drop it, you'll see. His tunes are for dancin and brockin' to - not for chin strokin' and over-analyzation.

Now - get to dancin'!

Re: Dillinja - don't hate on a champ

lol... i guess it's just me. Sounds like i'm at a carnival. I keep waiting for a clown to jump out and make some balloon animals.

Re: Dillinja - don't hate on a champ

hmmm, funny - I keep waiting to hear some dope beats, but all I hear is trash talk.


uh oh.


if you can top S bag, post a link of your tune...
Otherwise as they say on the interweb STFU.

Re: Dillinja - don't hate on a champ

oh yea, you want balloons, they're 2 for $5.. come to the rave and see.

Re: Dillinja - don't hate on a champ

i agree. Scat bag is a catchy stomper and im glad it finally came out on black vinyl instead of that picture disc. go to a party and have fun for once instead of sitting on jungle scene hating on every1 else

Re: Dillinja - don't hate on a champ

I would really like to hear what lemon d. has been up to... I still play "this is los angles"

Re: Dillinja - don't hate on a champ

**********
According to piston22 ...

I would really like to hear what lemon d. has been up to... I still play "this is los angles"
**********
^Yes Piston!^
That tune is O.G. for sure.

Re: Dillinja - don't hate on a champ

.....or $5 for the super huge punching bag baloon! Do a few of those and you'll be hearing even weirder noises than you would in a Clownstep tune

**********
According to dirtydeeds ...

**********
oh yea, you want balloons, they're 2 for $5.. come to the rave and see.

wah wah wah wah wah wah

a new meaning for the term " baloon animals"

=P


[ vigilante - 22 Nov 2006 15:47 ][ vigilante - 22 Nov 2006 15:46 ]

Re: wah wah wah wah wah wah

lol

Re: wah wah wah wah wah wah

i saw something about a remix of This Is LA, still dubplate status, i forget who did it.

i gotta side with the trash talkers on S Bag. sure it hits hard and makes me move when im drunk at Funktion or wherever, but I still hate it. No, my beats don't hit that hard, but im still gonna judge!

Re: wah wah wah wah wah wah

^LOL.^
Can someone say reckless ambivalence?!



oh yea This is L.A. remix... ah nevermind.

Re: wah wah wah wah wah wah

you always hear this from people who sack ride CLOWN STEP

if you it sucks so bad make somthing better. Thats not a dis so dont be offended its just:

ITS NOT ABOUT THAT ITS ABOUT THIS

DILLINJA has the skillz to make somthing better. I like almost every tune even the simple ones but this is by far pure SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Almost like its a joke this tune is a bag of SHIT!!!!!!!!!!.

I enjoy jump up to!!!!

btw this sounds nothing like clown music it sounds like CHEESY CHEESY CHEESY SHIT BAG jump up. the werd clown has never been so over used

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

It's seriously not a very good tune at all.

Maybe his ears are gone or something ??

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

Shitbag = Tune of the year !!

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

i just think its funny that people say "i hate clownstep... i hate wobble....too much clownstep.... yada yada yada", then i get to the clubs and when it gets played the dancefloor is going crazy. im sure some of the people saying that are dancing as well, or else you wouldnt be at that club seeing whatever dj you knew you were going to see that night. then when someone calls dark dnb "kill your mom drum and bass", some people get all offended. its all drum and bass and i love it all. sure there are crap tunes and of course there are many great tunes but it really all comes down to your own personal preference of what you like. there are reasons why tunes like s**tbag get played a lot, it may not be for everyone but when you see a whole dancefloor going off you know the tune has something. this isnt directed at anyone, this is just my observation from being out in the clubs.

end rant.... i dont even know where that came from, im dead tired today haha

[ circuit - 30 Nov 2006 11:06 ]

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

^ in agreement with circuit here. who cares if the jump up sounds are pushing it further, or the darker sounds are getting darker. that just means that the spectrum of the dnb sound is getting wider and nothing bad can come of that.....

2cents

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

Yah man, it's all DnB - good thing we have such variety and so many styles. Wouldn't it suck if everyone was just playing dark tunes or just jumpup or just liquid? It's dance/party music, so dance and have fun

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

not feelin' s-bag at all (i really dislike it). that is just me. i think dilinja is a great producer, with tons of amazing tunes under his belt - however, this one just wasn't for me... but, it does make the dancefloor jump.

some wobble/clown is really good, some of it sucks ---- same as every sub-genre of dnb. good news, there's room for all of us!

different strokes for different folks!

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

save me a balloon....

wah- wah- wah- wah wahw

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

yeah... i dunno. I still think dillinja is one of the most influential people in dnb today. his tunes are what everyone trys to imitate as far as mixdown and clarity on a club setup... his albums are very good for the most part, he is as og as you get.. um lets see... what else, he has a really cool f**k you if you dont like me attitude...

i dig him almost always. sbag not so much. i think it sounds like my worst nightmares pitched and sped up until around 4 min in i want my head to explode.

anyone remember fast car?? i mean he knows exactly what will sell and he markets on it. he makes money of music and feeds his family off dnb.

so... my point after all this rambling is... dont hate. congradulate son!!

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

don't hate, deffocate, in a bag, then sell it!!!



**********
According to djpawn ...

yeah... i dunno. I still think dillinja is one of the most influential people in dnb today. his tunes are what everyone trys to imitate as far as mixdown and clarity on a club setup... his albums are very good for the most part, he is as og as you get.. um lets see... what else, he has a really cool f**k you if you dont like me attitude...

i dig him almost always. sbag not so much. i think it sounds like my worst nightmares pitched and sped up until around 4 min in i want my head to explode.

anyone remember fast car?? i mean he knows exactly what will sell and he markets on it. he makes money of music and feeds his family off dnb.

so... my point after all this rambling is... dont hate. congradulate son!!
**********

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

I agree whole heartedly with .com and circuit. It's all DnB/Jungle no matter what samples or vibe the tune has. So long as DnB keeps evolving and we remember where it came from, things can only get better.

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

This pic is taken for this thread..


Spinning S-Bag (on picture disc - LOL) while enjoying baloons

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

Yo Dirty you spinning in an ice cream shop?

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

yea, drugs help...i reeeealy hope you didnt just blow up a baloon and take a picture... actually more than that...i hope its not a whippet.

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

ashes, ashes, we all fall down..

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

This fools got the Cold Stone Creamery menu it the back. Sick.

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

i could see that, but i don't think S Bag is evolutionary. in fact i think dillinja has probably evolved less than any other producer around nowadays. he is a brilliant engineer but his tunes are piss poor IMO in terms of quality music.

good engineering =/= good music

also, we know where the music came from: RAVE HARDCORE

and when we "returned to our roots", a lot of that hardcore revival stuff was equally piss poor. whatever you may think of dylan or total science now, all their (respective) tunes had the exact same basslines.

yes it's all drum and bass, but saying that generic cookie cutter dancefloor anthem bizness is the same thing as, for instance, paradox, is like saying velvet revolver and pink floyd are the same.

**********
According to thapunisha ...

I agree whole heartedly with .com and circuit. It's all DnB/Jungle no matter what samples or vibe the tune has. So long as DnB keeps evolving and we remember where it came from, things can only get better.
**********

[ 4th_level - 12 Dec 2006 23:27 ]

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

^^^
very well put

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

Valve Sound? I agree, As long as it's D&B evolving, it's all gravy. Lemon D does need to put some more stuff out there, and so should Decoder, and Danny C.

Baloons are alway's good too. That picture was cool.

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

Herbal influenced statements. I do despise Haters of big name's in the Junglescene. If it were'nt for the exploration that these Big Names' partake in, Drum and Bass would'nt be where it is today.

Ever changing, evolution, progressiveness, it's all a good thing. No need to hate on a great artist for one bad piece of work.

although, I do hate that chatterbox track on Aphrodites' Overdrive. We need some more Original MC's out there though, that's for sure. Understandable, clear, no racing to be the fastest Dr. Seuss rhymer's out there. The DJ's are what we come out to see.

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

i disagree on the basis that when you go out to a club here, the vibe is different from anywhere else in the world. here in the states, and in california, we expect MCs to be amazing, because we're snobs. the best hip hop in the world has come out of the united states, and so we hold the MC to a higher standard here than anywhere.

however, the purpose of the MC in most other dnb scenes in the world is to be a hype man. perhaps the point of this is being further lost as the drum and bass scene in america becomes more and more of a club thing instead of a rave / party thing.

as much as i have tended to dislike MCs in the past, they are an undeniable part of the scene. i agree with you that all that yabba-dabba-doo bulls**t is old and needs to go away. that is not craft, that is gibberish and the egotistical blasphemy of craft. but don't hate on MCs... they bring people into the scene that perhaps would otherwise not be involved, and the bigger the scene becomes due to the magnetism of this music and everyone who takes part in creating it, either live or in studio, the better.

**********
According to decoder13 ...

We need some more Original MC's out there though, that's for sure. Understandable, clear, no racing to be the fastest Dr. Seuss rhymer's out there. The DJ's are what we come out to see.
**********

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

hes still got it.
his remix of wheres my money is pretty heavy if its any consolation.

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

stop with the hate PERIOD.
the hatred towards artists/dj's/genre's/promoters/venues, all of it has to stop. PLEASE i beg of you, wheres the love?

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

i'm with trench.

this one is pure garbage. The background noise is actually a single key preset from Absynth, meaning he held a button down and it took all of 1 second to create. this is not an evolution of anything, it's de-evolution. it's sad to see someone who helped spark drum n bass writing a tune that sounds like it came from a 13 year old on a casio. I always measured my production values against the early German stuff, not the early UK stuff. I dunno, at least my drums are harder so I guess I have room to talk.

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

not my cup of tea, but the production in all his tunes my my tummy hurt on the floor
so it is wat it is right?

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

Have to agree with the deeds. EPIC TUNE. how could these peeps not kno. its that booty shake shizzle! not for the squinty eyed!

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

wait till "all the way" drops. Dillinja will regain his crown.

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

I asked that about alot of producer's after 2002-03 (Year I stpped Buying Vynil regularly)... Why you gotta hate on Dillinja. I guess nobody's been following John B's Releases..... 2 da 1, 2 da 1, 2 da 1.

Fluid? Sik

Some food for thoughts presented by someone who really doesnt care....

Re: Dillinja (what happened)

yeah not feeling it or some of his tunes lately think it all started with fast cars or whatever HAHA or maybe when i saw him and lemon d train wreck in diego hmmm...
some producers should not try to mix because rewinding every track u drop doesnt hide the lack of mixing

excellent producer tho
gots love for valve sound
just not exactly feeling recent tunes.