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Re: what does 50cent do for hiphop?

"what does 50cent do for hiphop?"

absolutely nothing but confirm that its all about 'who ya know' to get in the business. homie f**ken SUCKS

Re: what does 50cent do for hiphop?

check out his mixtapes before you say all that..

his mix tapes are on another level..

his radio s**t is weak.. yea..but those tapes..


spitten venom.

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-50 cent
-ja rule
-Ashanti

should all be shot in the head ...


twice


Abel

Re: what does 50cent do for hiphop?

Who knows? I'm sure he likes to do what he loves (make music), regardless of what people think he contributes. What does everyone else think they do for hip hop? Fuck what other people think, do it for yourself.


[ index - 12 Aug 2003 10:36 ]
[ index - 12 Aug 2003 10:32 ]

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my take was only about the 50cent i hear on the radio. it would be hard to say what he does for hiphop as a whole

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i love hiphop



caca

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ALL hiphop?

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yeah I pretty much do love all music. But I defintely don't discriminate or stick to the "underground". I like commercial and indie s**t overall

[ index - 12 Aug 2003 10:45 ]

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i only like 50 cent cause of his tattz



caca jk

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i'm still surprised 50cent has more than one song!!

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According to djunit ...

check out his mixtapes before you say all that..

his mix tapes are on another level..

his radio s**t is weak.. yea..but those tapes..


spitten venom.
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Yeah man... I heard some of his old s**t a while back... he has these Ja-Rule diss tracks that are super funny and super tight... most of his new s**t may be whack... but every emcee puts out s**tty music in their time... people like what he does, so he does it.

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um the ja rule diss tracks are new!

so yeah anyway... i like rob an industry nigga

that track rocks.

-eek

Re: what does 50cent do for hiphop?

How new are the Ja Rule disses? At least a year old no?

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I've heard the eminem 50 cent and Busta rHymes Jarule diss

What other ones are out ?

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there is a dre and obi trice diss against ja rule, with eminem on the hook

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50 cent did a couple of Ja Rule disses that were him making fun of a "Best of Ja Rule" CD... 50 does a mean Ja Rule impression.

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when i say new i mean post shooting.

and there are 3 or 4 i believe... i think i have em all.

-eek

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Got track titles?

I heard them over X-Mas on some mix tape my bro had from NYC... I would love to hear them again.

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I feel 50 cent is the second coming for all the Tupac and Biggie fans.....before, all these rappers were pussies....so Eminem had 50 do a song with biggie and a song with Tupac (which is so f**king lame) and there ya go, the second coming of gangster rap is born...i mean, this guys been shot, who wouldnt like him...as for doing anything for hip hop, all he is doing is keeping the gangster s**t alive.... he will fade out soon tho.

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50 Cent - I Smell Pussy (Ja Rule Diss)
Eminem & 50 Cent - Hail Mary (Remix) Feat. Busta Rhymes(Ja Rule Diss)
50 Cent - Poor Lil Rich

i think i have more i'll look

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i don't think he does anything significant. he's just another cog in the wheel. plus he only has one album under his belt. give him time see what happens. i personally am not into his stuff but i understand why other people like it. he is very talented and business savvy.

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i think he is significant based on the face he is one of the few rap artists selling big numbers still. he's not the hip-hop savior or super lyricist of the year but that is still significant.

i think the image and persona of 50 cent is completely ignorant and silly but i still appreciate his music on some level. i wont pay to see him live or buy into the hype around him. i HATE the "put myself and my kid in a bulletproof vest" style but i'll still listen to the cd i bought now and then.

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his mixtapes were good but to get airplay you gotta compromise a lot of different things like style, integrity etc etc. it's part of the grand paper chase..


at this point, i'd argue that he's just comic relief.

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hey but you have to ask yourself did he really compromise anything or suffer any loss of integrity? the people(that heard him from the beginning) are really, really feelin him for real. i don't think he gave up anything hes pretty much the same he just has dre and em on the boards. now thats immediate success.

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According to emmanoir ...

his mixtapes were good but to get airplay you gotta compromise a lot of different things like style, integrity etc etc. it's part of the grand paper chase..


at this point, i'd argue that he's just comic relief.
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whatever he does, he is making money

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according to jayvon:
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hey but you have to ask yourself did he really compromise anything or suffer any loss of integrity? the people(that heard him from the beginning) are really, really feelin him for real. i don't think he gave up anything hes pretty much the same he just has dre and em on the boards. now thats immediate success.
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heh. again, debatable. then again, "integrity" is also an easily skewed argument. the topic of the thread was whether or not he "does" anything for hiphop. IMHO, he doesn't do jack s**t except reinforce that which has been already established by the people you just mentioned (dre and em)... so if all he's doing is maintaining his position as a "cog in the wheel", he isn't DOING much for the music and it's progression, if you ask me.

but.. since i don't make dollars, i don't make much sense... lol

[ emmanoir - 12 Aug 2003 13:45 ]

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wait i thought he had a whole album that just wasn't released. and then there are a bunch of old mix tapes.

personally i'm really feeling 50 cent.

-eek

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he does. i just meant his mainstream release. eminem like 50 also has other stuff before his major label debut album, plus battle footage, freeestyles etc...
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According to eecue ...

wait i thought he had a whole album that just wasn't released. and then there are a bunch of old mix tapes.

personally i'm really feeling 50 cent.

-eek
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[ jayvon - 12 Aug 2003 14:07 ]

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who cares if he disses ja rule.. like you needed someone to tell you he sucks? haha 50 cent's s**t.. and i do mean s**t.. speaks for itself. his 'raps' are so f**ken boring and stale and unoriginal and all that biz. just goes to prove that whatever the industry puts out, you'll like.

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yeah it does seem it is harder for mcs to come original these days whether it be commercial or indie...I think a lot of mcs are blessed with the production and sound behind thier voice that really highlights them as an artist...I think a lot of the time, the producer is so underated and overseen. I mean the sound is what shapes everything around it

[ index - 12 Aug 2003 14:26 ]

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true dat index, good input

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it is kind of like the saying, "actions speak louder than words." In this case the beats are more of an impact than the lyrics, the sound is what gets people up and moving. Don't get me wrong some songs as in lyrics can be very powerful and moving as well.

[ index - 12 Aug 2003 14:35 ]

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its reallly funny to see people get so animated over how much they think so and so rapper sucks. don't waste your valuable energy. if he "f**ken sucks" why even comment on it, why take the time out of your day to slam someone else? i may not like 50 cent but i respect the level that he has attained, i mean i don't see any of us there? and as for producers being underrated i have to disagree. for the last 5-6 years producers have been shining. everymonth i go into the bookstore i see a producer gracing well known magazine covers. the neptunes are now living legends, timbaland will go down in history, roni size, questlove, dr dre, rza and countless others receive there props and often times outshine the artists that they themselves produce.

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yeah music enthusiasts and media coverage know what is up with producers, I guess I kind of meant the average radio listener might not give the recognition deserved to the producer. I know what you mean though.

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personally, his rhymes don't do much for me at all, but i'm not really sure if he's got skills or not, because I honestly haven't heard ANY of his tracks AT ALL ...so you neva know. I haven't even heard any of his songs on the radio all the way through ...I guess it just doesn't do it for me, or it aint my style because i've never really took the time or effort listening to his music.

And you can't really judge a man and his abilities based on a couple of songs the radio n media decide to play over ...n over ..n over again, because his other tracks that are unheard of might be tiight ...who knows ...i dont. hehe .... :P plus i'm not sure if it's him, but i was readin an ad for Cage's new cd, i think it's already out ...but anyways it says that this guy named Reef is featured on it, and in parentheses it said 50 cent ..so i'm guessin it's him. I wana peep this track, anyone know if it's really him?!?!

but anywaise ...even if i aint diggin him, the fact that so many others do ]...the majority of young hip hop heads through out this country does] like him shows me that he is significant [somewhat, atleast to certain peoples] and does mean somethin n has some kind of importance in this whole hip hop industry n biz ...even if i don't like his s**t ...he's still got my respect, juss cuz he's doin his thang, the way he wants and chooses to do it, n he's makin bank ...

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"if he "f**ken sucks" why even comment on it"

because its a thread based on opinion? hmm.. i input my opinion. kinda the point of these message boards. it didnt say, who here loves 50 cent?

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i'm with ^^^ on this one too. i never liked him from the get go. maybe he's doing something for mainstream. but to me, he ain't hip hop...

hip hop is a culture...and he does nothing but taint it.

the roots... talib kweli... mos def... biggie... now that's my definition of hip hop.

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he gets people on the internet to create posts bitching about him.

thats the epitome of hiphop.

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but its not like your even stating an opinion, its more like you're stating that its a fact that hes sucks AND that everything the industry puts out people will like(at least be realistic). the message also didn't say who here thinks 50cent "f**ken sucks" either so what's your point? seriously, do you want people to at least RESPECT the music that you yourself make(esp dnb something that is not really accepted here in the us)?
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According to mainframe ...

"if he "f**ken sucks" why even comment on it"

because its a thread based on opinion? hmm.. i input my opinion. kinda the point of these message boards. it didnt say, who here loves 50 cent?
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hahahaha word!
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According to c_lm ...

he gets people on the internet to create posts bitching about him.

thats the epitome of hiphop.
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yo man you really should read all my posts before commenting.. let me refresh you with my OPINION...


"who cares if he disses ja rule.. like you needed someone to tell you he sucks? haha 50 cent's s**t.. and i do mean s**t.. speaks for itself. his 'raps' are so f**ken boring and stale and unoriginal and all that biz. just goes to prove that whatever the industry puts out, you'll like."



and sorry.. i dont respect him. i dont respect his message. and i certainly dont respect his style.
oh.. and what i make and what he makes are two completely different things. if people dont like my music, great... i dont expect them to respect me or my music. you just gotta do your thing and not worry about everyone else. if you like him, fantastic, get off me.

NOW i feel like im wasting too much energy on this topic.

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50 Cent is not for everyone.

(Especially me).

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according to Mainframe
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oh.. and what i make and what he makes are two completely different things. if people dont like my music, great... i dont expect them to respect me or my music. you just gotta do your thing and not worry about everyone else. if you like him, fantastic, get off me.

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..exactly.

and,
i.m.o.
Your production can compete with Dr.Dre's anyday, as far as rap/hip-hop beats go...

..and thatz just one element of your producing skills..

you've got ragga,etc. mastered too!
hez only workin with da gangsta beats.

and gangsta MC's such as 50Cent.


to bring in the dollAz$$$


which we will do someday...


..

blahblah BLAH

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p.s.

i think this topic should be

'what does 50Cent do for rap er gangsta rap?'

not hip-hop.

Cuz he doesn't do s**t for hip-hop!

[ aurakul - 13 Aug 2003 11:49 ]

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sooooooo do you guys think that gangsta rap isn't hip hop?

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He makes me turn that s**t off

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You should read that issue of XXL where 50 is the guest editor. Read his interview with Kweli. it's dope.

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f**k 50 cent!!!! thats all i got to say bout that, anyone who likes that fool, is mos def not down with hiphop! more into some f**kin gey hop n s**t.....

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will some one answer my question?
yea that kweli interview is good. at of all the rappers 50cent could interview he personally chose talib kweli. but seriously do you guys think that gangsta rap is not hip hop?