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illestmindset

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 18 Dec 2002 11:35   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

DJM 500?????????????????????

rodon

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 18 Dec 2002 11:36   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

why not?

people were scratching on s**ttier mixers back in the day.

calimindstate

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 18 Dec 2002 11:37   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

the pioneer 500 and 600 have a curve on the fader like a vestax , as a matter of fact u can probaly do more with that pioneer cause it has effects on that s**t !!!! so u can cut some s**t up

dre the skratch athlete

illestmindset

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 18 Dec 2002 11:38   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

it does have a curve? I wasn't aware of that. Sweet, I'm gettin mine in a couple hours.

leah

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 18 Dec 2002 11:41   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

all crossfaders have a curve, the question is what kind of curve is it. the curve on the 500 is shaped like the bottom of a bowl in that it gradually curves upward from the center, which means that if you very slowly moved the fader over, your track would fade out to nothing smoothly. this isn't at all ideal for scratching with, but I'm sure you and your crazy skills can make do

the 600 has an adjustable curve that includes a curve for scratching (a much sharper curve so that when you open the fader even a tiny bit, the other channel plays at full volume).

illestmindset

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 18 Dec 2002 11:43   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

according to Leah....................

"I'm sure you and your crazy skills can make do "



Your absolutley right

calimindstate

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 18 Dec 2002 11:46   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

yo if u get the pioneer make shure u get the 600 , or else dont even get a pioneer , get a rane or vestax

illestmindset

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 18 Dec 2002 11:48   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

cant afford the 600 gotta get the 500

tharad1

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 18 Dec 2002 11:49   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

Its ok for scratching until you want to do more advanced techniques. Im wanting to sell mine right now and get a different mixer, one with an adjustable crossfader curve and a crossfader that doesnt feel so damn flimsy.

illestmindset

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 18 Dec 2002 11:53   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

I'm gettin it today and I dont wanna regret it. It just seems like thats the one that will best suit all my needs.

hagerty

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 18 Dec 2002 12:09   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

if you cant afford the 600, buy the djm3000.

djdmt

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 18 Dec 2002 12:11   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

i can scratch the serial numbers off with my trusty screwdriver....

gg_

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 18 Dec 2002 12:13   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

plus the faders feel like fisher price gear on the 500...regardless of the curve, you'll break that s**t after 2 months if you scratch on a regular basis.

dj13

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 18 Dec 2002 12:18   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

all faders have curve, yes, but not all faders have an adjustable curve.
the 500 is no good for crabby things because of the lack of adjustable curve. the 6 i believe does have an adjustable fader (?)

illestmindset

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 18 Dec 2002 12:19   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

so many things to consider but f**k it, its lookin like the 500. I want the fx and I'll take it EZ on the fader.

illestmindset

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 18 Dec 2002 12:20   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

The 600 does, yes

gg_

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 18 Dec 2002 12:20   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

nitpicking aside, you'll honestly be stoked as hell when you get the thing set up and flip the power on for the first time...have fun!

illestmindset

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 18 Dec 2002 12:21   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

I'm all smiles today Now all I need is a stereo receiver. lol

lojik

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 18 Dec 2002 12:23   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

i've tried some scratchin on them before and it sounds good, but if your style is more "mix" oriented then get it greg, my style requires more of a 2 channel simple battle mixer so it depends on how u mix. I GET FIRST DIBS ON TRYING! j/k

directrix

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 18 Dec 2002 13:04   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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get yourself a rane ttm56, i had the djm 600, it got boring, all the knobs in the way of scratching, hell the effects on the pioneer are not all that anyways, now the tascam, thats something else. my plan is to purchase an effects unit for my rane and use the Flex Fx on that bitch. word

bens

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 18 Dec 2002 13:13   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

yeah you can scratch with the 500.

contrary to popular belief, you can crab with the fader. make sure its extremely well lubricated because the curve is very very very very long. the cross and line faders do take a while to break in .. probably like a month before the action is REALLY smooth.

transforming with the phono/line switch is fine as long as you dont put too much torsion pressure on the switch (pushing too much ina n upwards or downwards manner will make it really loose)

and no, the knobs to the side of the fader dont get in the way. learn some hand control.

directrix

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 18 Dec 2002 19:37   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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no i wasnt saying that they were in the way, you can easily move around them, its just depends what the guy wants to do with the mixer. i personally couldnt get and technical scratches to sound good on the pioneer.

auz34

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 18 Dec 2002 19:39   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

you could but it's kinda s**tty, were's the vestax at yo? u should have got one of those fo sho....

slapinfunk

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 19 Dec 2002 04:20   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

My mixer.. and yes you can scratch on it.. hehehe

auz34

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 19 Dec 2002 04:21   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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damn that mixer is nutty lookin.....lol

directrix

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 19 Dec 2002 10:02   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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pimp mixer man, how much you spend on it? those mixers come with the smoothest faders..... word,

illestmindset

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 19 Dec 2002 10:06   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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anyone else recognize that girl? DJ Rap ladies and gents

illestmindset

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 19 Dec 2002 10:09   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Well I got the 500 and I'm doin allright with the scratches. You really gotta throw that f**kin fader over though. Crabs come out kinda weak. Oh well. Sweet set up with the MK3s

steelrain

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 19 Dec 2002 10:13   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

you scratch on a turntable and you cut with the mixer....so yes you can

slapinfunk

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 19 Dec 2002 13:24   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

i paid 1000 for the mixer inluding shipping...

relentless

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 19 Dec 2002 13:32   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: Is it possible to scratch on a Pioneer mixer?

You could always purchase a B and G fader and hope and pray that it fits!!!

illestmindset

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 19 Dec 2002 13:35   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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B&G ? whats that?

brez

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 19 Dec 2002 13:42   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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turn your decks 90 degrees counter clockwise - makes for a tighter setup [its all about speed baby] and it gets the arm out of way. [and it doesnt cost you anything] also needles make a big difference - use what the pros use. also flip the weight at the end of the arm [and push it all the way in] to maximize the pressure on the needle. buy a couple break records [anything from dirtstyle - which is Qberts gig].. most of all, have patience. it takes many years to master skratching.

illestmindset

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 19 Dec 2002 13:46   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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I've already done all of those things. You dont undestand. I CAN scratch. I was curious about the fader on the DJM500. Thats all. thanx for the info though. I got the 500 and its workin out allright. stoked on my new setup!

gg_

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 19 Dec 2002 15:21   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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yo slap did you tap that ish? be honest now?

slapinfunk

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 19 Dec 2002 15:51   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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I like to tap the filter buttons... and tapping the x fader assign buttons as well

sparkla

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 30 Dec 2002 01:19   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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about that allen & heath: slapinfunk

you got that s**t incl. shipping for a g!!!!!!! naw.......


where?????

beskone

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 30 Dec 2002 01:34   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: about that allen & heath: slapinfunk

hehe, it's all good, whoooooo dj rap uses one...must be the best....


just playin, i know they are the dope s**ts, but show me a dj with some real technichal skillz using one if you want to impress me :-P

hot chicks and expensive hardware make a great maxim spread, not a great dj testimoninal :-P

but what do i know, i'm just a hack

freestyleliving

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 30 Dec 2002 11:44   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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those mixers are s**t for skrachin,,,,,,besides the heavy killz in the eq's ,,....i would never waist my money on that s**t,,,,im still confused why it has become the club standard,,,get rane or a vestax,,,,or a stanton if your poor like me,,,and just buy and seperate fx.. for like $300 ,.,all in all youll spending the same amount of $$$ or even less for a wayyy wayyy wayyyyyyyy bettter setup

dj_dimas

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 30 Dec 2002 12:21   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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I think my scratching has gotten better on a pioneer....

syndakit

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 30 Dec 2002 12:36   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: about that allen & heath: slapinfunk

the 500 is a piece of crap. if you are looking for something cheaper for scratching get one of the Staton SK series. They start at $150 and up and the fader is pretty nice, it looks dope, and my friend has had a SK2 for over a year and it has stood up nicely.
however if you are gonna spend more than $500 than just buy the Rane 56. that s**t is definitely the nicest s**t on the market for soundquality and scratching

dj_dimas

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 30 Dec 2002 12:43   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: about that allen & heath: slapinfunk

I had an SK6 by stanton, its an excellent scratching mixer but its s**t on a loud system...

izm

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 3 Jan 2003 07:22   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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I could scracth on a toaster if it had a crossfader.

izm

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 3 Jan 2003 07:24   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: about that allen & heath: slapinfunk

I started back in '86 when there were no scratch mixers. There was one Gemini, with the wood plating, and Numark made a couple of mixers. Other than that your choices were limited to what you could make at Radio Shack. So for all the DJ's who "need" to use a particular mixer, or they can't do the gig, GET REAL!!! Real DJ's can adapt to any situation......survival of the fittest

fm

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 3 Jan 2003 08:37   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: about that allen & heath: slapinfunk

well... i didn't start in '86... but in '92... which still predates curved faders and such.... and I was cuttin on belt drives and a pyramid mixer...

so I agree... you can cut on anything...

but I am a performer... and I want to sound my BEST whenever I perform... nothing is worse than getting out there and not being able to really flex like you want too because the gear is s**tty, or the tables are not on a sturdy surface... or I can't hear s**t from the monitors... all of those things wil effect my performace... and if nothing else that will just dissapoint me...

it's music... not the army.... do the best with what you have... but there's not shame in getting better gear...

nicotene

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 3 Jan 2003 08:43   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: about that allen & heath: slapinfunk

::::::also flip the weight at the end of the arm [and push it all the way in] to maximize the pressure on the needle::::::

No need for doing that. Unless you want to eat the hell out of your records.

You can keep the weights turned normal and scratching isn't a problem. Some peole like to flip the weights around, but there is no need to....

dj_dimas

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 3 Jan 2003 10:27   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   
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Re: about that allen & heath: slapinfunk

True you should be able to scratch on anything and make the best outta any situation butttttt.............

Mixers nowadays have their specialties and you want to have the right mixer........

 

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