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commix/icicle/lomax style bass

any suggestions? i'm trying to get wild with the bass but not sure where to start. i hear albino is the key but not sure what to do!!!

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The key to their sound IMHO is elegant simplicity. Really, all of their basslines are basic sine waves w/ LFO modulation, coupled with badass engineering.

You can get their bass sounds out of any synth really, but the thing that really makes their stuff stand out is how well the low end is engineered. Big sub bass sidechained with big kicks...

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yeah i'd love to crack the code haha

i guess i'll boot up some bass in albino and mess with slow rate lfos

any specific advice? i know some cats here are ueber techy haha

and btw thanks to everyone who responds to my posts. i feel this forum is a friendly community of knowledgeable and helpful people.

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post a sample of what you are looking for

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like this:
http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/sm?C=SPEAR011&S=a

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/sm?C=METH072R&S=b

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/sm?C=MEDIC004&S=b

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this exact bass here:

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/sm?C=CRIT029&S=a

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man i love these tunes...but there really isnt anything complex goin on Bass wise....just get some decent samples...old ones...use a lil lfo on your filter cutoff...and reasample it a couple times...maybe on with a pitch envelope...these are all really basic sounds to acheive IMO

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so i see what you mean - load a bass sample into kontakt (i use cubase) and resample and lfo on the cutoff.. i guess it comes down to experimenting haha

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Start with SINE or SQUARE (around 50hz or so) - Add filter (I use SVF) and filter out everything except about 20 percent (you only want to keep the low end of the sound) Turn your RES up all the way on the filter. Turn up the envelope amount a bit (mess with this to get the setting you want) Enable the LFO on the filter and slightly adjust the AMT and SPEED to get desired wobble. Also use the PITCH to adjust down manually or automate to your desired amount via envelope.

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^^ that's the kind of advice i'm looking for

cheeeeeeers bro will def try that

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Try it out and have fun! There are definitely other techniques to get that bass sound, but that should get you started. Most of what they are doing is based on a low Filter Cutoff frequency, slight modulation amount, and LFO amount and speed. Mess with these settings on your sampler/synth until you get the desired wobble you are looking for. If you need some bass samples, let me know. I have some good ones I can send over for you on AIM. EZ!

[ xen0cide - 5 Jul 2007 14:39 ]

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xen0cide...perfect instructions!

[ flinch - 5 Jul 2007 15:26 ]

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You wouldnt happen to know how to make a grilled cheese do ya?

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there are great explanations here for basslines however...

Try actually learning the ways of sounds and synthesis rather than asking for a quick explanation and standing on the shoulders of other producers. Through the year we've seen many producers on this site work hard to learn the ways of production on their own and ultimately learning rather than asking for the answers in the 'back of other folks books' is going to be way more rewarding. Who knows? you just may come up with something original and that's what labels & other artists are truly looking for - isn't it?

*Albino is deffo cool.

*Listen to Flinch & Xenocide, they've got the right idea if you wanna copy off their homework instead of doing your own.

*Don't you work with Uncle Festa? He's knows whats up from what we've seen so far.

Bottom line tho - Come original.

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.. You can also consult the unicorn guild for answers as well.

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thanks to everyone except subsequence - go be gay in someone's else's thread

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and sean - thanks for the advice - but u gotta learn the rules before you can break them innit?

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Very well put - all good points Sean!

Oh and that's a good looking Unicorn!

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there are great explanations here for basslines however...

Try actually learning the ways of sounds and synthesis rather than asking for a quick explanation and standing on the shoulders of other producers. Through the year we've seen many producers on this site work hard to learn the ways of production on their own and ultimately learning rather than asking for the answers in the 'back of other folks books' is going to be way more rewarding. Who knows? you just may come up with something original and that's what labels & other artists are truly looking for - isn't it?

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nick
how's about some calculon bass?
ya dig?

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Another similar sound:

http://www.chemical-records.co.uk/sc/servlet/sm?C=TOV43&S=c

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haha

yo guys i already know how to make calculon bass

you'll hear it in a few months on ff recordings

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and sean - thanks for the advice - but u gotta learn the rules before you can break them innit?
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key word there is 'learn' not 'copy'.


come original.

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we all need some production tips from time to time

just weird asking heads on this board.

you get 1 proper tip and 10 criticisms.

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EAT A BOWL OF SHIT BEITCH! Didnt know you were the all mighty JS regulator SUKKA CHUMP! Did my comment offend you in anyway? If so.. GROW A PAIR. BEITCH! Didnt know you had a phobia of grilled cheeses. Or is it that you think your a bad ass sitting behind the computer your parents bought you?

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^^ this isn't what i was looking for

i am trying to learn. you are trying to act a fool

grow up chump

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go to the grid man, ha ha ha, I stopped coming here for advice ages ago....lol. unless its Andy explaining something its usually worthless.....all opinions not many facts.....you may also want to ask the producers themselves. I have had good luck asking people how they do something specific which leads me to other interesting sounds when I am trying to duplicate what I heard. And there is not a damn thing wrong with duplicating to learn. You dont write new songs when your learning guitar, you play someone elses that you already know and like......

2cents

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LOL. you guys should battle..
I'm an accomplished grille dcheese chef, trust! I will make a super deluxe grilled cheese for the winner for the 'Calculon vs. Subsequence' title bout!


Junglescene.
Where folks come together, only to usually tear things apart

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thanks dave, i do visit the grid and am coming to the conclusion that this forum is not very helpful

as far as battling you guys can amuse yourselves. i am trying to make tunes, not waste time on some fool

[ djcalculon - 9 Jul 2007 11:03 ]

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go to the grid man, ha ha ha, I stopped coming here for advice ages ago....lol. unless its Andy explaining something its usually worthless.....all opinions not many facts.....you may also want to ask the producers themselves. I have had good luck asking people how they do something specific which leads me to other interesting sounds when I am trying to duplicate what I heard. And there is not a damn thing wrong with duplicating to learn. You dont write new songs when your learning guitar, you play someone elses that you already know and like......

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the grid is cool - but you can learn for yourself too.

And I dunno I wrote my first song 'I dont care john wayne' on guitar when I was 3 or 4, and recorded it, so I dunno about having to copy to learn. Doing 'remixes' of other tunes and turning em into D&B is kinda the same thing.. Some folks like reggae turned into D&B, but much of the reggae community does not. Same with hip hop remixes, those styles of D&B as a whole suit mainly D&B headz. Coming up with original ideas and melodies (much like clipz, tc, dillinja and others) is the true test of hit making in this game - just check who's sellin records and who's not lately.
But anywayz, lots of good points on this thread I think - NOW whats up with the battle for Grilled Cheese!?

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LAME

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EAT A BOWL OF SHIT BEITCH! Didnt know you were the all mighty JS regulator SUKKA CHUMP! Did my comment offend you in anyway? If so.. GROW A PAIR. BEITCH! Didnt know you had a phobia of grilled cheeses. Or is it that you think your a bad ass sitting behind the computer your parents bought you?
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thanks dave, i do visit the grid am am coming to the conclusion that this forum is not very helpful

as far as battling you guys can amuse yourselves. i am trying to make tunes, not waste time on some fool
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Actually you called him a chump.

you guys are both passionate about what you do as we all are - but one thing I do stand by is dont talk sh*t online if you cant back it in person (junglescene is notorius for this!!!!)!

I think you two should have to engage in a grilled cheese eating contest!

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LAME

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According to subsequence ...

EAT A BOWL OF SHIT BEITCH! Didnt know you were the all mighty JS regulator SUKKA CHUMP! Did my comment offend you in anyway? If so.. GROW A PAIR. BEITCH! Didnt know you had a phobia of grilled cheeses. Or is it that you think your a bad ass sitting behind the computer your parents bought you?
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Agreed.


Calculon you know Unkle Festa - why not have him show you the ropes cuz?

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Honestly I couldnt give a squirt of piss! I was trying to throw some humor into an intersting "PUBLIC" thread not "YOUR" thread silly wabbit. Who thread is this again? You told me to go be gay in someone elses thread? That going to say that this "Forums" thread some how belongs to someone in particular? That someone being you maybe? Didnt know you were such an emotional guy, the thought of someone making a joke in a thread you may have started some how makes you upset? If there was an issue with the admins thats one thing, and I would be respectful and appologize. BUT! I made no attempt to try to insult you or make you upset in anyway. Nor was my comment in anyway vulgar, or insulting. You think you could get on here and try to punk me? AND think your gonna get me to feel guilty or something. PLEASE! Take your meds SONNY.

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Dont worry fellas, all my friends arent here to chime in!

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haha subsequence you are overthinking this wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much

how about you just stop posting here? thanks

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YESSA MASSA!

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"Doing 'remixes' of other tunes and turning em into D&B is kinda the same thing.. Some folks like reggae turned into D&B, but much of the reggae community does not. Same with hip hop remixes, those styles of D&B as a whole suit mainly D&B headz. Coming up with original ideas and melodies (much like clipz, tc, dillinja and others) is the true test of hit making in this game - just check who's sellin records and who's not lately."


wow, was this personal? Almost my whole discog is using hip hop or reggae, and I know you know that. So I am not really making hits then huh??? lol.....thanks for your input. But you know what, thats the DNB I like and I like to make. I guess im just a buster and will never get anywhere.....oh well.

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dave your production is gangsta

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maybe, but apparently its not real gangsta...

I dunno, I def take that personal. Sorry im stuck in the past where samples in DNB went hand in hand. I really enjoy flipping the script on DNB and Reggae...thats just my thing.

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Yup and there goes the entire Congo Natty collection. Damn, they win again! Im witcha on dat big nia! Just did the Nitty Kutchie track on my page. Working on some other stuff to come out here real soon as well. Would like to hear some of the stuff youve done, probably heard some alread but link me up por favor.

[ subsequence - 9 Jul 2007 11:29 ]

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www.myspace.com/directfeed
www.myspace.com/fixationdnb

you can check either of those pages for my rip off tunes....im in the process of contacting all the labels now to let them know they arent true hits.

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Thought so, Ive hear your stuff for sure. I will be sure to stop by and check out the latest. Come by and drop us a word... Let me know what you think of the material on those. Just played most of it at Hidden Jungle and it seemed to do ok.
www.myspace.com/djsubsequence
www.myspace.com/drumunitwarning
You better tell the TONZ of DRUMZ and GHETTO LIFE CREW TOO!!

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www.myspace.com/directfeed
www.myspace.com/fixationdnb

you can check either of those pages for my rip off tunes....im in the process of contacting all the labels now to let them know they arent true hits.
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Yo DAVE!

No what I meant at all brov - Let's get the facts straight, you're an OG at that style man, you know we BIG ya up! We love the way you do things brov, you know it. Keep doin' what you do cos you took that style on from the get go.

Some folks however have exploited remixin' those styles (poorly i might add) and to us it just stangnates D&B as a whole.

This thread is gettin' tangled so I'm gonna bounce off it, but still the Grilled Cheese battle must happen!

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HAHAHAHAHA^^^^HAHAHAHAHA
I would like Munster Cheese please!

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yeah man, i think I got tangled in it as well. ha ha ha...sall good brother! I just gotta stick up for myself now, you know....I hear ya on the silly remix styles. I get sent them all the time. I just didnt want to be grouped with all that jazz!!~

inserts crying smiley here ->

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this resource has been my friend for years

http://www.soundonsound.com/articles/Technique.php

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That probably was for someone else, but thanks for posting that. Like a treasure chest full of know how in there! Good looking out, y feliz cumple anos.